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Post #1 post 10th March 2007 - 03:03 AM
Just wondering about speed camera these days (those in white Landcruiser 4WDs) - in the old days there used to be a blue box outside of the 4WD which is the bright flash. These days all I can see is the 4WD and a sign that says "speed camera in use" but haven't noticed that same blue box situated outside the vehicle. Do the still always flash unconditionally day or night when they snap a car speeding? And what is the general rule - if the 4WD is on one side of the road, do they also monitor the opposite side?
MYB16
Post #2

they always flash...

Mr-Rota
Post #3

The flash is on the bull bar at the front of the car.

To answer your other questions.

Yes they flash in the day. I know this because i got done 8kms over at about 2pm and looked backed and saw the flash.

If its on the left hand side of the road, Its taking photos of the direction traffic is moving.

But they are getting sneaky now and putting them in the centre of traffic (is there is room for it) And it will face one direction but it will be taking photos of traffic coming head on to it.

DRAAGN
Post #4

Beleive me they flash at night if u happen to get done by a speed camera they turn it day for a second or two ,Not a good feeling for any driver and just like at night u can see them in the day time too not too mention the cheeky cop who caught ya speeding as well

JaCoB
Post #5

i got told in nsw it is illegal for them to flash oncoming traffic because the flash blinds the drivers... is this true and also does it apply in qld if so it should because it really is dangerous to flash oncoming drivers but none the less if your speeding then you deserve to be caught if only there were more cops and speed cameras in qld as there are in nsw. i feel sorry for the nsw members

wantingboost
Post #6

i merged onto the m1 just after the yatla bp, got to 110kph, then my m8 come up beside me, then another on his side so all 3 would have been in a evan line, but as the last come up he was speeding, so as i seen the flash i looked to my right and all of us was in a line, will we all get done or just the calpret?

chances
Post #7

QUOTE(wantingboost @ Mar 11 2007, 01:32 AM) [snapback]1280850464[/snapback]

i merged onto the m1 just after the yatla bp, got to 110kph, then my m8 come up beside me, then another on his side so all 3 would have been in a evan line, but as the last come up he was speeding, so as i seen the flash i looked to my right and all of us was in a line, will we all get done or just the calpret?


dunno but someone will get a ticket !! tongue.gif hehe that sucks

35NIK
Post #8

I got done at 3pm in the arvo heading on the bruse highway, I was in the leftlane with the speed cam in the middle of the rd, I saw the flash come from the lefthand side window???

when i got the pic, u should see my face screeming "FU*K!!!!!!!!!" I laughted about it then paid the fine, I also called DOT to get a bigger pic cause my car looked sexy in the photo of me going 16kms over, but they said no!

Dori*mon
Post #9

i bealive they do flash.

51NGL
Post #10

they flash !

and can get you from either side of road.

FYI: in perth the speed camera light is red....u shit your pants when u get caught

Seth Cooper
Post #11

They dont flash if someone has smashed the fuck out of them or shot them with a highpowered fire arm.

jordo
Post #12

QUOTE(Mr-Rota @ Mar 10 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]1280850157[/snapback]

If its on the left hand side of the road, Its taking photos of the direction traffic is moving.

But they are getting sneaky now and putting them in the centre of traffic (is there is room for it) And it will face one direction but it will be taking photos of traffic coming head on to it.

Actually you will find that a stationary speed camera is capable of getting 2 lanes of traffic, whether it be in the same direction or not. I know this, because this is how I got booked. Speed camera was parked on the opposite side of the road, and got me coming head on to it.

QUOTE(wantingboost)

i merged onto the m1 just after the yatla bp, got to 110kph, then my m8 come up beside me, then another on his side so all 3 would have been in a evan line, but as the last come up he was speeding, so as i seen the flash i looked to my right and all of us was in a line, will we all get done or just the calpret?

Whoever was speeding will get booked. On the image, there will be a line of the speeding car which elimates the chances of the fine being argued because there are numerous cars in the picture. From your explaination, I would think that either you or your mate has been booked, as speed camera's only monitor 2 lanes of traffic. Just wait a few weeks and find out.

Damone
Post #13

QUOTE(jordo @ Mar 11 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1280850962[/snapback]

Actually you will find that a stationary speed camera is capable of getting 2 lanes of traffic, whether it be in the same direction or not. I know this, because this is how I got booked. Speed camera was parked on the opposite side of the road, and got me coming head on to it.
Whoever was speeding will get booked. On the image, there will be a line of the speeding car which elimates the chances of the fine being argued because there are numerous cars in the picture. From your explaination, I would think that either you or your mate has been booked, as speed camera's only monitor 2 lanes of traffic. Just wait a few weeks and find out.


Stationary Speed cameras (4wd speed camera units) as used in QLD can do 4 lanes of traffic. IE M1.

45SET
Post #14

QUOTE(Seth Cooper @ Mar 11 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]1280850825[/snapback]

They dont flash if someone has smashed the fuck out of them or shot them with a highpowered fire arm.


thanks i'll try that next time....... rolleyes.gif

ned
Post #15

QUOTE(wantingboost @ Mar 10 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]1280850464[/snapback]

i merged onto the m1 just after the yatla bp, got to 110kph, then my m8 come up beside me, then another on his side so all 3 would have been in a evan line, but as the last come up he was speeding, so as i seen the flash i looked to my right and all of us was in a line, will we all get done or just the calpret?


i do beleive in circumstances like this, that this will be one of the many photographs to be discarded cause there is no way of telling which was the speeding car.

Rookie ROX
Post #16

QUOTE(Mr-Rota @ Mar 10 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]1280850157[/snapback]

But they are getting sneaky now and putting them in the centre of traffic (is there is room for it) And it will face one direction but it will be taking photos of traffic coming head on to it.


If it's in the centre median strip, you'll find they're actually set up with two cameras pinging both directions of traffic. They can and do have capabilities to do that.

They will always flash, they can and do flash head on, yes it could be argued to be 'blinding', but so far I haven't seen anyone take it to court for it.

ROCK ON
R~R

enchanted_vixen
Post #17

A few years ago i was driving home with my mum at about 10pm, we got flashed head-on, and it was so blinding we veered off the road and almost hit a tree. Mum went directly up to the police station to argue that the flash almost got us killed, but their reaction was pretty much "So what?, Pay the fine"
So obviously its not illegal in QLD unless the law has changed in the last few years.

45SET
Post #18

they also put the sign behind plants or rubbish bins... when it is ment to be in clear site of all traffic... so i dont think they care if they blind you... they are only after saving peoples lives.... and money

Lancaster
Post #19

yeah i was 1 of the guys with wantingboost, who eva gets booked i wanna see the picture, 3 n14 pulsars in a line would b good to c how it looks, but i am sure they carnt possibly tell who was speeding allthough i no who was but in the picture i dont think its possible?

v8srchoice
Post #20

apparently, i read this in one of the forms you get with your ticket, they can monitor and book multiple cars at the same time, they put a letter on your car and say car 'a' (you) doing this speed. but im not sure, because I didnt have another speeding car in my photo and i also havent had a ticket for quite some time now. Just somethin i read with my last flash for cash letter.

70NKY
Post #21

QUOTE(v8srchoice @ Mar 11 2007, 05:39 PM) [snapback]1280851865[/snapback]

...my last flash for cash letter.

Haha I like that.

Seth Cooper you're a wanker.

In answer to the question, the flash is on the bullbar. It's already been answered. And yes they can tell which car in a multiple car photo was speeding.

Seth Cooper
Post #22

70NKY, you are gay.

Ris00
Post #23

QUOTE(Rookie ROX @ Mar 11 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]1280851217[/snapback]

If it's in the centre median strip, you'll find they're actually set up with two cameras pinging both directions of traffic. They can and do have capabilities to do that.

They will always flash, they can and do flash head on, yes it could be argued to be 'blinding', but so far I haven't seen anyone take it to court for it.

ROCK ON
R~R


Are mobile camera units allowed to be parked in median strips?
Ive never seen one before in a median strip, and thought it was because its illegal to park there, and i think speed cameras have to parked legally when operating dont they?

DAL32
Post #24

They would have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt which car was the speeder in a multi-car photo so therefore they won't fine in the case of multi car photos. I've never seen a fine with more than one car in the photo. However, the angle they take a photo at, you could probably be pinged if you were right next to them - you would have to be slightly in front of you're to the right, or slightly behind if you are to the left of the other car. That's if the SC is on the left hand kerb.

Yes they can do either oncoming or approaching traffic.

QUOTE(Ris00 @ Mar 11 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]1280852557[/snapback]

Are mobile camera units allowed to be parked in median strips?
Ive never seen one before in a median strip, and thought it was because its illegal to park there, and i think speed cameras have to parked legally when operating dont they?

I am pretty sure it's illegal to park on footpaths, nature strips etc, but I see speed cameras on them all the time. I don't think the po po would care if council wanted to fine them $60 for operating on a stretch of road that will make them $11ty billion anyway.

Rookie ROX
Post #25

QUOTE(Ris00 @ Mar 11 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]1280852557[/snapback]

Are mobile camera units allowed to be parked in median strips?
Ive never seen one before in a median strip, and thought it was because its illegal to park there, and i think speed cameras have to parked legally when operating dont they?


Is it really legal to be standing in the middle of a roundabout? Not really, but I've seen police using LIDAR guns from it wink.gif

As with many things, technically no, they probably shouldn't. However the fact that the location was approved by a road safety committee and the location agreed opinion will remove any ability to argue against it.

ROCK ON
R~R

Mccann
Post #26

All I know is they can defiantly get you head on from the other side of the road and they do not always flash. I know this for a fact because thats how they got me. And it was from inside a Ford Station Wagon about 4 years ago.

vh-holden
Post #27

the ones in darwin don't flash during the day. they are mobile units and put a flash unit outside at night time.

70NKY
Post #28

How bout you's type in www.google.com and do a search for queensland speed camera legislation. Click the first link that comes up. A whole range of pdf files then appear. Read the various pfd's and you'll find out that they can fine a particular car in a multiple-car photo, because the speed camera beam is at a 20degree angle to the road. Trust me, I've been thru the traffic camera office before, and they can pinpoint which car is speeding in any photo.
Also included in those pdf files is how to tell which direction the offending car was travelling in. "A" means the car was travelling away from the camera, and "F" means the car was travelling forward towards the camera.
Also an interesting point I noted, was that the "Speed Camera in Use" sign, DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THERE LAW. It is only a Police Service rule. An infringement notice can not be withdrawn simply because the sign wasn't there. Also, the position of the sign is supposed to be with 5-30m PAST the speed camera. This is to notify drivers of the speed camera they have just driven past, they will then immediately check their speed, and usually will then slow down if they were speeding. This is how speed cameras are supposed to be used to lower the crash rate in so called "black-spots"

Amazing what one search can bring up rolleyes.gif

51NGL
Post #29

QUOTE(enchanted_vixen @ Mar 11 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]1280851326[/snapback]

A few years ago i was driving home with my mum at about 10pm, we got flashed head-on, and it was so blinding we veered off the road and almost hit a tree. Mum went directly up to the police station to argue that the flash almost got us killed, but their reaction was pretty much "So what?, Pay the fine"
So obviously its not illegal in QLD unless the law has changed in the last few years.


Hence the reason why you "AIM" for the speed camera.......

destroy the evidence of your speed reading AND do the cops over in insurance thumbsup.gif

boban_sss
Post #30

they F7kin flash alrite.

Rookie ROX
Post #31

QUOTE(51NGL @ Mar 12 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]1280854835[/snapback]

Hence the reason why you "AIM" for the speed camera.......

destroy the evidence of your speed reading AND do the cops over in insurance thumbsup.gif


And be gaoled for the next several years of your life for killing the police officer who was inside the vehicle at the time, or causing grievous bodily harm through dangerous or reckless operation of a motor vehicle - great idea! thumbsup.gif

Briefly ignoring what 70NKY has already said, I don't see why people care about the signs anyway. By the time you see that sign sitting beside the vehicle, your chances of being able to slow down enough in time are incredibly slim. At best you'll get a nice photo of your car with the brakelights illuminated, just so you can tell they all work (hint at all Commodore and Falcon drivers dry.gif).

And now acknowledging what 70NKY has said - ding ding ding! Winner!

ROCK ON
R~R

woodstock88
Post #32

question has been answered a few times already. they had 2 4wds set up a few k's apart around yatala to ormeau on the M1 the other day, i knew they do it.. jus never seen it on the M1 before. bet they caught a few people.. not me tho biggrin.gif yay!

810 OUT
Post #33

if you get caught at both cameras a few kms apart you can take it to court and only pay one fine as you were fined twice for one crime... it would be like being charged twice for one robbery...

SkiDMaN
Post #34

flash for cash rocks my socks

One time in the Benowa/Ashmore area.. a mate was driving in a 60 zone at about 70.. saw the camera on the other side of the road... put his hand out the window to wave at him and he got flashed... so yeh that fourbie was doing 4 lanes of traffic... was a good pic though HAHHAHAH

Jimmy Boy
Post #35

all I can say is it works from personal experience

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