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acerace
Post #861

QUOTE (Beannie @ Apr 11 2010, 06:45 PM) *
good day guys, really enjoyed it out there with just the excel-only group :rolleyes:
always good to better your PB, and then do it again :lol:

great day. took the new car out for its first race.excellent.till we blu the clutch


 
trackattack
Post #862

times are up on Natsoft
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....04/2010.LAKE.P1

acerace
Post #863

QUOTE (trackattack @ Apr 11 2010, 08:16 PM) *
times are up on Natsoft
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....04/2010.LAKE.P1

not bad for first race
:rolleyes: cant wait for QR.

trackattack
Post #864

The Excels with limited mods beat a heap of clubmans, so you guys did well.

jessierose
Post #865

go the purple excels.... u boys rock

jessierose
Post #866

the peddars and kenards hire, and the purple efi preformance one woooooooottttttt

NISMOgemini
Post #867

who rolled? they get out ok??
looked like it held up ok.. was there a cage in it??

PRO050
Post #868

QUOTE (NISMOgemini @ Apr 12 2010, 09:12 AM) *
who rolled? they get out ok??
looked like it held up ok.. was there a cage in it??

He's ok, no cage, happened on the warm up lap not at race pace and rolled a far way into the gravel trap so would have washed alot of speed off.

NISMOgemini
Post #869

ahh ok.. thats lucky then.. good to hear he wasn't hurt!

slow bus
Post #870

QUOTE (PRO050 @ Apr 12 2010, 09:20 AM) *
He's ok, no cage, happened on the warm up lap not at race pace and rolled a far way into the gravel trap so would have washed alot of speed off.


This is a perfect example of why you do not try to turn in a gravel trap. Go straight get bogged and then pulled out

mr_squiggle_1
Post #871

I keep hearing the word "Race" used.

A quick note to all those that are currently driving or those that intend on driving.

At this point most guys are entering our SPRINT rounds, not our RACE events. There is a difference between the two events.

At a sprint event there is no passing, unless on you are on a straight OR you are waved to pass by the car in front. Currently we have the mentality that these sprint events are race days. We have had a number of occasions now where people are diving in on the inside into corners and generally driving as if they are in a RACE. Sprint days are designed for you the driver to race yourself and your time, not others on the track. There are no points given and awarded for the position in which you finish the only points awarded is to the person with the quickest time at the end of the day. Therefore you have a minimum of 20 laps to set ONE fast time.

If you want to race, enter a race event; do not enter a SPRINT event with the intention of racing.

To enter a race you will require the following as a MINIMUM -

- Roll Cage
- Fire Extinguisher
- Race Suit
- Helmet
- Gloves
- Enclosed Shoes
- AASA National licence

Most of you guys currently hold a AASA Clubman licence. This licence only allows you entry to our sprint events. To be eligible to gain a National licence you have to take part in a minimum of 4 sprint/practice events. During these events you will be observed to make sure you are safe for racing.

Driving in a sprint event like you would in a race is not showing you are a safe driver. Adhering to the rules and showing you are alert and considerate of others on the track is.

While I appreciate you are all out there to have fun (and so you should be!) safety is a big issue with the way SOME of the Excel drivers are driving. Bunching up the group in a sprint round to get closer driving/racing is not on (hence the additional briefing).

In short... If you want to race, go to a race event (we hold plenty of them). If you want to practice your lines, improve your times, learn the car in a safe way enter the sprints.

If any one has questions or concerns I'm able to answer any problems you may have. I am out in the office at Queensland Raceway most days. My number is 5461 9100

PRO050
Post #872

QUOTE (PRO050 @ Apr 12 2010, 09:20 AM) *
He's ok, no cage, happened on the warm up lap not at race pace and rolled a far way into the gravel trap so would have washed alot of speed off.



QUOTE (mr_squiggle_1 @ Apr 12 2010, 12:02 PM) *
I keep hearing the word "Race" used.

A quick note to all those that are currently driving or those that intend on driving.

At this point most guys are entering our SPRINT rounds, not our RACE events. There is a difference between the two events.

At a sprint event there is no passing, unless on you are on a straight OR you are waved to pass by the car in front. Currently we have the mentality that these sprint events are race days. We have had a number of occasions now where people are diving in on the inside into corners and generally driving as if they are in a RACE. Sprint days are designed for you the driver to race yourself and your time, not others on the track. There are no points given and awarded for the position in which you finish the only points awarded is to the person with the quickest time at the end of the day. Therefore you have a minimum of 20 laps to set ONE fast time.

If you want to race, enter a race event; do not enter a SPRINT event with the intention of racing.

To enter a race you will require the following as a MINIMUM -

- Roll Cage
- Fire Extinguisher
- Race Suit
- Helmet
- Gloves
- Enclosed Shoes
- AASA National licence

Most of you guys currently hold a AASA Clubman licence. This licence only allows you entry to our sprint events. To be eligible to gain a National licence you have to take part in a minimum of 4 sprint/practice events. During these events you will be observed to make sure you are safe for racing.

Driving in a sprint event like you would in a race is not showing you are a safe driver. Adhering to the rules and showing you are alert and considerate of others on the track is.

While I appreciate you are all out there to have fun (and so you should be!) safety is a big issue with the way SOME of the Excel drivers are driving. Bunching up the group in a sprint round to get closer driving/racing is not on (hence the additional briefing).

In short... If you want to race, go to a race event (we hold plenty of them). If you want to practice your lines, improve your times, learn the car in a safe way enter the sprints.

If any one has questions or concerns I'm able to answer any problems you may have. I am out in the office at Queensland Raceway most days. My number is 5461 9100

Sorry wrong wording
He was not up to "sprint" pace when he crashed

trackattack
Post #873

Hey Neil,

Thanks for posting that, it saved me having to sit down and type it all out.
There is a huge difference between Timed Sprints and Circuit Races.

At the Sprints the cars need to be well spaced on the track, and as mentioned no overtaking on corners unless waved past.
From Track Attack Website....

QUOTE
Sprints are based on your best time, not track position, so there is no need for aggressive passing maneuvers, in fact passing is only allowed on the straights. Sprints are often Called "Time Attack" or "Superlap" sessions.


We have Circuit Racing coming in May, so if your keen get your cars up to scratch with Roll Cages etc

More details on sprints - http://www.trackattack.com.au/sprints
More details on circuit racing - http://www.trackattack.com.au/racing

sv8nato
Post #874

hey its funny u guys put that in here cause i was there yesterday in a excel and i had another driver nudging me and pushed me off the track goin around a corner and i tell u i wasnt happy and if it wasnt for my mate bein there i could have got ugly after the race so i think u need to have a briefing at the next meet to tell some guys its not on

mr_squiggle_1
Post #875

There was 2 briefings at least that explained all the above? One in particular for the excel drivers alone which outlined that bunching up to promote close "racing" was not on...

sv8nato
Post #876

QUOTE (mr_squiggle_1 @ Apr 12 2010, 02:19 PM) *
There was 2 briefings at least that explained all the above? One in particular for the excel drivers alone which outlined that bunching up to promote close "racing" was not on...

obviously some guys are retarted and dont get it,maybe they will when they make someone get hurt

trackattack
Post #877

I want this to be fun, inexpensive and SAFE.
So what's going to happen is that people who dont obey the rules for "Sprints"
Will be upgraded to circuit racing and wont be allowed back into the sprint events.

That doesn't mean that the circuit racing is like playing dodgem cars,
The Topgear Circuit Racing that we do is entry level racing and is designed as a fun way to go circuit racing.
Nobody wants to smash their cars, nobody wants to go home and have to replace panels and repaint cars.

Anybody who takes Topgear Circuit Racing too Seriously will be relegated to the QRDC series and they can play with the big boys.
There is no where to go after QRDC.

Beannie
Post #878

i certainly found yesterday much better than last time (march) for the sprints.

by grouping the excel's together we were able to get in a few good laps in without the hassle of being overtaken or overtaking. I only had 1 session out of 4 which i wasn't able to be at full pace.

i enjoy the sprints and will probably only do the sprints, because im not financially set up to enter the circuit racing. however even if i could, i certainly wouldn't be wanting my car all beat up during a race and possibly out after just 1 lap.

Aza
Post #879

hmmmmm me and the boys at Dryden Motorsport have been watching this thread for a while now. Sounds like alot of fun

trackattack
Post #880

We might have a beginner to intermediate track training day coming up at Qld Raceway soon.
I dont have confirmed dates yet.

Cost will $200.00 for 4 hours
the group will be minimum 8 cars to maximum 16 cars.
Professional racing driver as the instructor.

Who would be interested in attending a day like that ?

Beannie
Post #881

hey jeff, do we have a excel series results for yesterday?

trackattack
Post #882

On a happier note......

I am close to negotiating a Tyre deal on a Control Tyre for the Circuit Racing.
The tyre that we are looking at is a 240 treadwear tyre and will be similar to the tyres that a lot of you are running now.
The preferred tyre will be a 195 x 50 x 15 at about $90.00 each + fitting
We will also have a 205x50x15 and a 185x60x14 tyre available at similar prices.

We will be including delivery to either one of our nominated tyre fitting stores, or any Metro address where the purchaser can sign for the tyres when they are delivered. Metro delivery areas will Include Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Toowoomba and Rocky.

The rules for the sprints will stay the same as they are now, 200 + treadwear, so there would be no changes required for vehicles currently competing at the sprint level.

Cars that upgrade to circuit racing will be allowed an amnesty period to wear out their current set of tyres before being required to upgrade to the Control tyre. You will be allowed to use the Circuit Racing tyre at the Sprints.

Some sponsor signage may be required on the cars.
Let me know what you guys think, can anybody see any problems ?

Cheers Jeff

trackattack
Post #883

QUOTE (Beannie @ Apr 12 2010, 03:45 PM) *
hey jeff, do we have a excel series results for yesterday?


I have been tied up all day processing video and talking to the potential tyre sponsor.
and a potential Race Series Sponsor !
So haven't have a chance to get the results up on Track Attack.

You can see where you came yesterday on Natsoft - http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....04/2010.LAKE.P1

NOS440
Post #884

QUOTE (mr_squiggle_1 @ Apr 12 2010, 02:19 PM) *
There was 2 briefings at least that explained all the above? One in particular for the excel drivers alone which outlined that bunching up to promote close "racing" was not on...


I couldnt help but notice the bunching and passing on the corners for the short time i was there watching...

Marlin
Post #885

QUOTE (trackattack @ Apr 12 2010, 04:02 PM) *
I have been tied up all day processing video and talking to the potential tyre sponsor.
and a potential Race Series Sponsor !
So haven't have a chance to get the results up on Track Attack.

You can see where you came yesterday on Natsoft - http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....04/2010.LAKE.P1


That word again. Tch tch.

trackattack
Post #886

QUOTE (Marlin @ Apr 12 2010, 04:52 PM) *
That word again. Tch tch.


Not a sprint series sponsor, but yes Race series sponsor :rolleyes:
EXcel circuit racing is coming to a town near you in May !

Street Tuned
Post #887

as the old saying goes it is always more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.


This to me sounds like good old fashioned cheap fun.


And young kids say there is nothing to do.

Beannie
Post #888

this sounds fantastic about a potential tyre sponsor!! though, hearing this is getting more serious, i'll wait until there is an annoucned control tyre/sponsor before purchasing anything else.
i'll stick with my road 14's :rolleyes:

trackattack
Post #889

Hey guys,
somebody told me there might be a Stock EXcel Class car running a nice shiny new set of extractors
If this is the case that car wont comply with the class requirements.
The car can still come and run with the other excels, but it will be excluded from the points.

Cheers Jeff

NISMOgemini
Post #890

control tire will be awesome.. so these circuit control tires will be aloud in sprints even for cars only doing sprints???

at that price $(90) i should just be control tire for sprints and circuit

fez
Post #891

hey there just wondering if any one is using the single cam at all and if so wat are the time difference between the single and the twin.

trackattack
Post #892

QUOTE (fez @ Apr 12 2010, 06:46 PM) *
hey there just wondering if any one is using the single cam at all and if so wat are the time difference between the single and the twin.


Lots of them are single cams, there isnt much difference between the two, a few horsepower at the top of the rev range.
I have some dyno sheets somewhere if i can find some time I will scan them.

QUOTE (NISMOgemini @ Apr 12 2010, 06:17 PM) *
control tire will be awesome.. so these circuit control tires will be aloud in sprints even for cars only doing sprints???

at that price $(90) i should just be control tire for sprints and circuit


Yes the circuit racing control tyre will be allowed at the sprints, and it will comply with the current sprints rules, so nobody will lose out.
and the price is pretty hot and availability wont be a problem, plus they will be available all over the place.
I will have a list of fitters that you can use, or you will be able to use your local tyre fitters.

I want to allow a bit more freedom at the sprints so that people can use they tyres that they already have without feeling pressured to buy new tyres immediately. At the price of these tyres i think that most people will want to run them anyway.

trackattack
Post #893

One more thing that I should mention is that to be part of the series you need to sign up for the track days through the Track Attack website, otherwise we dont have your details and you wont get any points towards the series.

I think we had 22 Excels out there yesterday, and only 16 registered through Track Attack.
So the 6 people who signed up on the day at the control tower aren't series entered.

Also the maximum cars that can attend the sprints at Lakeside is 100, there were over 80 there on sunday,
so you risk missing out if you try to signup on the day at the track

Thanks Jeff

trackattack
Post #894

I was just looking through the results on Natsoft http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....04/2010.LAKE.P1
and I just realised that the limited mod excels on road tyres beat..... among others

Porsche
Skelta G Force
Clubmans
300ZX

slow bus
Post #895

finally got my camber bolts from the states today. I installed 1 as a test, I started with 1 degree camber and after the first set I got 2.5. So if you install them top and bottom I cant see why you would not get 4 degrees plus.

PM if your keen on a set, bare in mind they take about 2 weeks to get here. ( I might see how much extra for express postage)

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