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trackattack

should be fine if the dash is still solid underneath.




To run AASA circuit racing minumum is 4 point cage - more details are here http://www.trackattack.com.au/forms/circui...and_apparel.pdf

to run with a roll cage at and cams events you need to comply with this http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/10_gen_re...dule_J_Q110.pdf

trackattack

I am working on a swaybar package, will let you know when I have pricing finalised.

RE Tyres - Shaun at Tyres and More behind Maccas at Albion will do Yokohama S Drive 195x50x15 for $150 each fitted ph: 3862 6200
he needs a days notice to get them in.

Cheers Jeff

nodrog

Hey Beannie I like your thinknig.

I think that there is still room to introduce an element of risk assessment and management in the class. I for 1 have decided that I will run a full 6 point cage as a minimum, and have gone about sourcing appropriate materils and building one. Based on this thinking, and the use of a full 5 point harness and race seat, the likelihood of hitting the dash has been significantly reduced, and in order to further manage the risk I am intending to construct something that would further reduce and sharp edges etc. My dilemma and I speak only for myself is that this approach is as safe as I can achieve beyond finding and replacing an original dash, which I have tried to find and in reality those available are likely to be "unsafe" due to significant sun damage and pure age as they are in wreckers with damaged or no windscreens.

All the other rules I agree with completely, but we also need to accomodate circumstances in which a safer option is proposed over the original where original equipment is scarce or not available. Maybe we should have a formalised process to seek the "approval" of the powers that be in certain circumstances.

benno.h

FWIW, the dash is going to do fuck all to reduce/prevent head injury for the passenger. It's a 2-3mm, hard, brittle plastic shell. Your head will go straight through it , shattering it into a pile of jagged shards, and continue on to what ever pointy structures are underneath.

I think it would be safer to remove the dash entirely, cut off sharp metal edges and construct a proper padded, shock absorbent structure.

All of this is pretty academic if there's only a driver in there however. Your head *might* hit the top of the steering wheel if there's enough stretch in your harness but I doubt it. I'd be more worried about the car completely deforming in a crash and shattering your knees on the dash or crushing your chest with the steering wheel.

NISMOgemini

id say its more you limbs flinging around hitting sharp bracketry.. not your head.. thats inside a full face helmet

nodrog

Ok but what is a flimsy piece of plastic going to do to stop that??? Not trying to be smart but the X2s probably predate any real crash testing and the plastice on them sucks. I have already removed all the sharp bits and put padding, the same as that used on roll bars, in place which I believe is better than flimsy plastic panels held on with clips.

Evaded Motorsport

Whiteline swaybars at full retail are $204 for the X3,

Gordon, I am still waiting to hear back regarding your suspension, hoping to give you a couple of options.

NISMOgemini

your not shooting your body at it from a cannon.. would you rather jump on a bed of nails with out without a layer of plastic, foam and trim over it??? its more then enough to protect you from whats under it

wasas

THey aren't made anymore
if you can get one I'll take one just a rear plox

Marlin

I think you got me wrong mate, I'm not a hater! lol

I posted the YouTube video only to highlight the safety aspect, I'm not doubting they're great fun (heck I took my old stock KE55 Corrolla around Lakeside in the 90's just to get out there!), my only concern is the safety aspect not wanting to see likeminded guys/gals gettin hurt.

As for the pace of the Excels, yeah they're doing great times around Lakeside because that track is all about keeping momentum and average speed up..... doubly as important in an Excel and the good drivers will be rewarded for it

I wanna have a crack in one! lol

Big_Red_

Haveing talked to the wreckers, 15" wheels are perhaps a fair bit harder to come across then initially anticipated. Thing is I need to replace the tyres on the stock 13's pretty damn soon. So unless some cheap 15's fall from the sky in the next few weeks it looks like I will be running 13's.
In a somewhat related point I will also be after a cage very soon, have we got a fixed price yet?
Lastly, my mates dad is ultra high up in Whiteline, will make a call and see what/if anything i can dig up.

nodrog

To answer you questionI would rather jump on a bed of nails that has all the sharp bit of the nails removed before being covered with padding.

Have you looked at an X2?? Hopefully the X3 has improved but the X2 has a very sharp edged steel plate supporting the relays abiut an inch or so away from where you loud pedal leg is!!!! and then they put this piece of plastice over is that is probably thinner than a condom!! This was not an acceptable option for me so ALL sharp edges were removed and /or relocated. I actually like the bits attached to my body and although they are a bit worn their condition is still accepatable to me and I hope to keep them that way. As it is now the only solid bit I have to worry about on the driver side or that is reachable by any of my extremities is the solid smooth bar, the pedals and the gear level, all of which are better than having sharp bits waiting to cut me to bits hidden benind a bit os dodgy plastic.

But this is all a pointless discussion as the rules allow a "safe suitable replacement" which is the route I am taking, and the deciding factor would be the QR people.

nodrog

Hey Big-red keep an eye on gumtree.com.au. I found mine there after a few weeks of looking, and find something for a Mitsi as well as the centre bore and stud pattern is correct, although the offset might be wrong. The offset can be fixed with spacers.

Marlin

I think in essence the original idea was to have the vehicles drivable to the track legally. Removing a dashboard simply isn't legal.

nodrog

Neither is adding a pod and stripping out the interiors anyway, and roll cages?????

Sounds to me like most of the current cars don't meet the essence of the original idea.

Without looking at the ARDs I can't comment on the removel of the dash but there are a few cars that just don't have a dash just an instrument cluster.

Marlin

We could go on forever about this stuff. At the end of the day, make it safe, have heaps of fun, don't get caught up in laptimes (because the cheque book nearly always wins), and whatever you do don't take it too seriously.



Big edit to avoid dribble

wasas

it's illegal to remove the dash. stripped is fine, just no sharp edges. cage is legal if bolt in, or welded with backing plates bolted in. ours is being mod plated as we speak

@marlin, come grab a shitter and join in We got our complete TCO spreadsheet if u wanna have a look at it.
(and I liked your idea, basically what me and 2 other mates have done with this) when the time comes we'll look at running another car

Marlin

I've already got too many cars mate! Maybe once one goes I'll replace it with another
Besides, gotta let someone else bask in some glory for a change lol

PRO050

bench racing at it's best

wasas

Sorted. Next question, how does one go about getting a car rally/conditional registration?

trackattack

Queensland Hyundai Parts is offering 20% discount on all used parts,
so replacement dashes might not be that expensive.

http://qldhyundaiparts.com/

trackattack

What do you reckon about these Toyo's
available in a 195 and a 205 x 50 x 15

Who would like to use these if i can negotiate a good price ?

Beannie

hey jeff, certainly interested on the proxes!
had been overlooking them due to not being approved previously...

would only be looking at them after i found 15" wheels first though.

Beannie

remember ,dyno day tomorrow!


FREE DYNO DAY FOR EXCEL SERIES CARS

Hey Guys,

I have been approached by Craig at Dyno Hire Service at Slacks Creek.
Craig is offering all of the excel series cars free power runs on his dyno

DATE - Saturday 27th March
WHERE - Unit 3 at No. 40 Randall St Slacks Creek
COST - FREE
TIME- 9:00 am to 12:00 noon, maybe longer if more than 20 cars come.

to add your name to the list - http://www.trackattack.com.au/dyno

THIS IS FOR THE EXCEL SERIES CARS ONLY !
check out who is coming by clicking here

Thanks Jeff
Track Attack.

zuboo

Trust me you wont be able to get it, you need close to the highest rally licence, it was abused years ago and now made so hard its not worth it.

NISMOgemini

id be keen for some of the them tires (depending on price)

wasas

like how hard? can it be worse than what we have gone through to make the car road worthy ??

trackattack

The Wholesaler is talking to Toyo to see what can be worked out.
They look like a top quality road tyre, lets hope the price is OK.

for 15" wheels I am going to look at buying a set of Silvia wheels
If I can make it work I have a supply of them available.

Marlin

If your car is Aust complied I would say definately not worth it mate.
I've been down that road and I can tell you it will cost about $1000 per year in permits to maintain it, PLUS you have to prove you have competed (annually) in a high end CAMS affiliated event and maintain a minimum of CAMS National Rally level. Also be prepared to explain yourself at length every time you get dobbed in and pulled over for having "Forklift" plates on your car, yes, the same plates for both fork and cars
Prob best to do what I did with my Skyline, and spend a few hundred on getting everything you can mod plated.

trackattack

Back to the dash issue,
I spoke to Chuck at Qld Hyundai parts today and Dashes suitable for race cars are $50.00
so its not a big dollar issue to replace your dash if your was damaged or accidentally chucked out.

Beannie

everyone missed out on free dyno!!
at least jeff and i know what power ours make

slow bus

I think the Proxies R1R will be too soft for the budget racer, I got quoted today the T1R $145 or for the KU36 $95 in a 195/50/15

I think the Kumho will be the best value for money

NOS440

NOOOO!!!!! was that today. i only got my car registered yesterday. if i realised this was on i would have come down for a go....btw...what hp you guys made?

DannyAE92

Heres some picks from the day, only two but u get the idea.


Jeff on the Dyno




Team BNR on the Dyno

trackattack

I thought the Khumo was $150 ?
sounds cheap, where are they coming from ?