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hate_
Post #476

Looked like you guys were having a ball on the 3rd wet session :)
I think i saw 3 front rite indicators missing and 2 rear lefts

So who's is the one that sounds like a motorbike engine ? And what have they done
to the engine ? Larger cams ?

trackattack
Post #477

Hey Guys,

VM are looking for some quotes to print in the paper.
so if anybody want their name and comments about yesterdays racing printed in Vehicle Mania along with the results and story
please post them up here or PM or email me.

Cheers Jeff

Evaded Motorsport
Post #478

Looking for quotes just from the excel guys Jeff?

trackattack
Post #479

QUOTE (Evaded Motorsport @ Mar 15 2010, 11:11 AM) *
Looking for quotes just from the excel guys Jeff?


you could make a quote from a fellow competitor and spectators point of view.

hate_
Post #480

QUOTE (Evaded Motorsport @ Mar 15 2010, 11:11 AM) *
Looking for quotes just from the excel guys Jeff?



If your quote is anything along the lines of "Excels.. faster than a 180hp starlets "
I will bitch slap you SO hard :tunes:

NISMOgemini
Post #481

^^ ROFL!

PRO050
Post #482

QUOTE (trackattack @ Mar 15 2010, 11:14 AM) *
you could make a quote from a fellow competitor and spectators point of view.

EXCEL'S the giant killers

wasas
Post #483

"well, if you dont like excels this is one hellova great way to destroy them while having an absolute blast at the same time!"

meh, I'll work on something better later.

trackattack
Post #484

OK guys i have looked into the swaybars and the guys running the bigger ones reckon that they are a great improvement.

SO you can now upgrade to 18mm swaybars front and rear - non adjustable !
I have amended the rules to suit.


front strut brace not permitted.
rear strut towers can only be tied together as part of the roll cage.

Cheers Jeff

Beannie
Post #485

i am genuinely surprised how much of a beating they are handling :tunes:
i wonder how much more they'll be reliable until the end of the year..

trackattack
Post #486

QUOTE (Beannie @ Mar 15 2010, 05:06 PM) *
i am genuinely surprised how much of a beating they are handling :)
i wonder how much more they'll be reliable until the end of the year..


thats why we are sticking with stock engines :tunes:

NISMOgemini
Post #487

QUOTE (sv8nato @ Mar 14 2010, 05:58 PM) *
yea mate i seen them too a guy there said they are cheap about 110 each



are they the kumho ku36?? if so where can i get tehm for $110?? is that fitted and balanced??

trackattack
Post #488

Approved tyres.

* Normal road tyres of any brand
* Khumo KU36 (180 treadwear)
* Achilles 123 (220 treadwear)
* Bridgestone re001 (220 treadwear)
* Federal 545EVO (240 treadwear)

plus any road tyre with a treadwear above 200 with a retail price less than $300 is also approved.
but check first if your not sure !

At this stage the Federal 595 RSRis not approved due to it being marketed as a semi slick and concerns about running costs due to the 140 treadwear. We have one car currently running these tyres which he will be permitted to continue to do in the interim.

NISMOgemini
Post #489

hey jeff, what does the "treadwear" number mean/relate to?? tread depth?

Reddyboy
Post #490

Ok Team ANA keep both ther cars together in one piece, mind you lost it coming onto the straight full 360 smacked it back into second and off I went no dents or scrathes lol. I have more fun driving these excels than my 2 GTR's. :tunes: Bring on round 3.

Beannie
Post #491

QUOTE (NISMOgemini @ Mar 15 2010, 06:13 PM) *
hey jeff, what does the "treadwear" number mean/relate to?? tread depth?


not tread depth, but more like how soft the tyre is... ie a 200 UTQG (treadwear) rating will wear in half the time a 400 UTQG tyre will.

Most road tyres are about 420-500, sports tyres about 280-400 and 'semislick' tyres about 140-260.
my road tyre achilles platinum atr are a 420 UTQG. lots of understeer, but a good performing "road" tyre :tunes:

wasas
Post #492

can you run a 205 on a 6.5" rim?

and we'll be almost ready for the first round of circuit I hope. need to get a cage and a few bits done (water pump/timing belt :S) before we are back out there, still cant wait to have another fang around :tunes:

Beannie
Post #493

jeff, can i understand something, if a tyre is under 200 UTQG rating, and still under $300rrp, does it need to be approved to be able to run it?>

wasas
Post #494

nothing under UTQG under 200.
nothing with a rrp over 300.

they are 2 separate things

benno.h
Post #495

Jeff what's the go with roll cages? We're getting pretty close to race date...

trackattack
Post #496

QUOTE (wasas @ Mar 15 2010, 08:32 PM) *
can you run a 205 on a 6.5" rim?


I haven't set a tyre width as the strut & guard & camber combo will do that.
you might find that you cant run a 205 and lots of neg camber.
but thats up to the individual drivers to work out how they want to tackle that.

I wouldn't run a 205 on a 6.5" rim, too much sidewall flex as I think the tyre is too wide for the rim.

QUOTE (Beannie @ Mar 15 2010, 08:32 PM) *
jeff, can i understand something, if a tyre is under 200 UTQG rating, and still under $300rrp, does it need to be approved to be able to run it?>



If the rating is MORE than 200 treadwear and the manufacturers published RRP is less than $300 then you can use those tyres without approval, but if in doubt just ask and I will confirm if they are OK or not.

I have concerns about the financial burden of running really soft tyres which is why I am restricting how soft the tyres can be.
You will still get great performance from the approved tyres, hopefully without having to replace them constantly.

Innuendo
Post #497

Photos are up here; Clicky here. Feel free to take any of my photos for the track attack site Jeff.

Evaded Motorsport
Post #498

QUOTE (Beannie @ Mar 15 2010, 08:17 PM) *
not tread depth, but more like how soft the tyre is... ie a 200 UTQG (treadwear) rating will wear in half the time a 400 UTQG tyre will.

Most road tyres are about 420-500, sports tyres about 280-400 and 'semislick' tyres about 140-260.
my road tyre achilles platinum atr are a 420 UTQG. lots of understeer, but a good performing "road" tyre :tunes:


Nah, Semi slicks & Slicks range from 0-100, "Sports Tyres" are 100 - 220-240ish and anything up from there I would merely consider just a normal road tyre.

Also the treadwear rating won't necisserily be half their are other factors that come into play.

QUOTE (wasas @ Mar 15 2010, 08:32 PM) *
can you run a 205 on a 6.5" rim?

and we'll be almost ready for the first round of circuit I hope. need to get a cage and a few bits done (water pump/timing belt :S) before we are back out there, still cant wait to have another fag around :)


Yes it will fit.

trackattack
Post #499

QUOTE (benno.h @ Mar 15 2010, 08:44 PM) *
Jeff what's the go with roll cages? We're getting pretty close to race date...


do you want to race at QR on the 28th ?

Minimum requirement for circuit racing is a 4-point cage + race seat and harness etc
see here - http://www.trackattack.com.au/racing

Paul (PRO050 here on Boost) has my car and is measuring up the steel required.
If you want him to build you a cage you will have to let him know when you need it for, I think he has a lot on at the moment.
hopefully will have the price confirmed for your guys in a day or 2.

NISMOgemini
Post #500

are yous getting 205's under the gaurds??? or only 195?? the ku36's seem to be only avail in the 205 not 195

PRO050
Post #501

QUOTE (benno.h @ Mar 15 2010, 08:44 PM) *
Jeff what's the go with roll cages? We're getting pretty close to race date...

Doing a full cage for Jeff at the moment, can bend up a half for you at the same time but you'll have to get it to me asap so I can weld it in.
Best PM me.
Cheers Paul

Beannie
Post #502

QUOTE (Evaded Motorsport @ Mar 15 2010, 08:46 PM) *
Nah, Semi slicks & Slicks range from 0-100, "Sports Tyres" are 100 - 220-240ish and anything up from there I would merely consider just a normal road tyre.

Also the treadwear rating won't necisserily be half their are other factors that come into play.


I stand corrected :tunes:

might have to hunt something better, but most 'good' ones are 15's.....the expense of 14's to 15's will kill me for now :) i'll just plug along with 14s :)

trackattack
Post #503

QUOTE (NISMOgemini @ Mar 15 2010, 08:57 PM) *
are yous getting 205's under the gaurds??? or only 195?? the ku36's seem to be only avail in the 205 not 195


from what I have seen you can fit the 205, but it limits the amount of neg camber you can run.
I am pretty sure that one of the cars there on the weekend had 205x50x15 KU's on it.

so you have to decide what you want more tyre or more neg camber.
Note: the tyres cant protrude outside the guards.

superdave
Post #504

Jeff, thought about contacting Hyundai about series sponsorship?

trackattack
Post #505

question has been asked, waiting on an answer.

wasas
Post #506

So Whos seriously going to be ready, or are looking to be ready for the circuit racing?

NISMOgemini
Post #507

so circuit is going ahead now?? nice :tunes:
will it be just excels on the track during??

trackattack
Post #508

QUOTE (NISMOgemini @ Mar 16 2010, 01:46 PM) *
so circuit is going ahead now?? nice :tunes:
will it be just excels on the track during??


OH yes circuit racing is definitely going ahead !
At first we will share the track with other sedans, probably have a few good battles with old datto's, geminis etc.
Once we get enough cars we can run our own groups.

NISMOgemini
Post #509

shit yes :tunes: it sucks balls i have to wait 4-5 months before getting out there

Big_Red_
Post #510

Can't wait till my debut in April :tunes:...that $60 for extra drivers is really rough though

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