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Dai.
Post #11586

QUOTE (Shuffs @ Jan 25 2016, 06:09 AM) *
Spent ages looking in that

crop,looking for your Mrs,then realised you were talking about the bike provoke.gif
So are you on the road,or just doing daily excursions from home?Few storms predicted this week,so might be an idea to check the weather,before you venture too far thumbsup.gif



Best way to find faults with a new vehicle,is to give it a tub,especially,if you polish it after.I'm glad you've moved it from the proximity of that tree,I had a bad feeling in my water with it living there thumbsup.gif

Is your $100 Chinese oil cooler,a 'performance' part,for when you fit the Rotary?When it comes to intergral parts for the conversion,if it were me,I would be very wary buying a 'cheaper' substitute that could cause another component to fail,but that's just me thinking out loud

ph34r.gif

Just daily excursions since I'm getting used to the different type of style. Rolled over to 1700km's yesterday and loving every minute but I'm resting today and Wednesday to see how the back/body copes with riding almost every day. I'd honestly look at one of these Mark,i'm very picky about shit on bikes and cannot fault one thing at the moment,even the stock pipe has a note to it.

Only things I've fitted to save out of pocket expenses is radiator guard,headlight protector,frame sliders and i do have a 3 piece engine case savers sitting here waiting for the next service.

alpharx7
Post #11587

QUOTE (Shuffs @ Jan 25 2016, 06:09 AM) *
Best way to find faults with a new vehicle,is to give it a tub,especially,if you polish it after.I'm glad you've moved it from the proximity of that tree,I had a bad feeling in my water with it living there thumbsup.gif

Is your $100 Chinese oil cooler,a 'performance' part,for when you fit the Rotary?When it comes to intergral parts for the conversion,if it were me,I would be very wary buying a 'cheaper' substitute that could cause another component to fail,but that's just me thinking out loud

ph34r.gif

you can usually source second hand oil coolers for a similar price, so i'll keep an eagle eye out for one in the next 12 months. there's some parts with which i definitely wouldn't accept lower quality parts, fuel pumps, turbo / wastegate / bov / etc however this car isn't going to be built to be the be all end all of cars on the planet. sensibly price alternatives will be considered from no.2 brand suppliers, i don't need the be all end all / ducks guts / zomg it's #$%^ in parts.

alpharx7
Post #11588

get your book of useless information out, here's an entry for it............. thumbsup.gif

be the life of the party with trivial and useless information.........

mamoru.gif

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mark1414
Post #11589

QUOTE (Dai. @ Jan 25 2016, 03:06 PM) *
Just daily excursions since I'm getting used to the different type of style. Rolled over to 1700km's yesterday and loving every minute but I'm resting today and Wednesday to see how the back/body copes with riding almost every day. I'd honestly look at one of these Mark,i'm very picky about shit on bikes and cannot fault one thing at the moment,even the stock pipe has a note to it.

Only things I've fitted to save out of pocket expenses is radiator guard,headlight protector,frame sliders and i do have a 3 piece engine case savers sitting here waiting for the next service.


Its definitely on my list. Sat on one at the dealer last time

bowrofl.gif

I would love to have a 1000 but at this stage I don't think I need one. It would be a massive step up in power and I would like something to look forward to in the future. I also like the street triple because from all I have heard it is a little more nimble and easy to ride, isn't the throttle response a little bit jerky on the GSX S1000? I would be doing 50% commuting, 50% fun so wanting something that is fun but also easy to ride in city traffic.

Was it 17k ride away? That is a 2.5k more than the prices I have seen for the triumph.

alpharx7
Post #11590

wolfman101
Post #11591

Here's a question that's been on my mind recently:
Does engine position and drive type matter a damn thing to handling? We're told all the time: mid-engine+AWD=the best possible track performance...and intuitively it certainly makes sense. I've had FE/FWD, FE/RWD, ME/AWD ME/RWD. All been very different on the track.

Looking as seriously as I am at the Z06, it really made me re-evaluate. How the hell is a RWD car with a huge engine in the front one of the fastest cars in the world?

Then I had a think and realised that MOST of the fastest production cars on the track are RWD, and many are front or even rear engined. Have we just had the marketing wool pulled over our eyes?

Gratuitous shot of Z06 being rad.

alpharx7
Post #11592

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KH SERIES V6 - 3.87 - 199 MPH - The fastest Outlaw car in the world
QRC

Published on Jan 22, 2016
Another week, another record. Nothing is stopping this beast - Aka The Game Changer


Dai.
Post #11593

QUOTE (mark1414 @ Jan 25 2016, 06:42 PM) *
Its definitely on my list. Sat on one at the dealer last time

bowrofl.gif

I would love to have a 1000 but at this stage I don't think I need one. It would be a massive step up in power and I would like something to look forward to in the future. I also like the street triple because from all I have heard it is a little more nimble and easy to ride, isn't the throttle response a little bit jerky on the GSX S1000? I would be doing 50% commuting, 50% fun so wanting something that is fun but also easy to ride in city traffic.

Was it 17k ride away? That is a 2.5k more than the prices I have seen for the triumph.

The power isn't going to rip your arms off on any bike,it comes down to rider control and how much they wrench the throttle. I'll be using the 1000 for commuting to work and the occasional weekend play in the hills. I've read online that the throttle was jerky and bit sensitive but after all my riding,i've failed to expose this flaw or anything,feels like 100% perfect out of the box with no problems that others have picked up,i for one wouldn't hide flaws as it would feel like i got ripped off.

$16,200 ride away but a dealership in Hervey Bay will beat it and deliver for free.

alpharx7
Post #11594

QUOTE (wolfman101 @ Jan 25 2016, 07:16 PM) *
Here's a question that's been on my mind recently:
Does engine position and drive type matter a damn thing to handling? We're told all the time: mid-engine+AWD=the best possible track performance...and intuitively it certainly makes sense. I've had FE/FWD, FE/RWD, ME/AWD ME/RWD. All been very different on the track.

Looking as seriously as I am at the Z06, it really made me re-evaluate. How the hell is a RWD car with a huge engine in the front one of the fastest cars in the world?

Then I had a think and realised that MOST of the fastest production cars on the track are RWD, and many are front or even rear engined.

Have we just had the marketing wool pulled over our eyes?

Gratuitous shot of Z06 being rad.


i'd always believed that the rise in the number of vehicles that are FWD was on account of cheaper manufacturing costs associated with keeping the powertrain up the front & not having to worry about the tailshaft / rear differential etc.

alpharx7
Post #11595

QUOTE
1974 Datsun Sunny 1200 UTE - Jay Leno's Garage
Jay Leno's Garage

Published on Jan 24, 2016
After creating a sensation at SEMA, Dominic Le stops by to show Jay the imported Japanese pickup he melded with the front end of a classic GC10 Skyline.


wolfman101
Post #11596

QUOTE (alpharx7 @ Jan 25 2016, 08:19 PM) *
i'd always believed that the rise in the number of vehicles that are FWD was on account of cheaper manufacturing costs associated with keeping the powertrain up the front & not having to worry about the tailshaft / rear differential etc.


I believe you're right on that, but no one ever claims that FWD is the path to the fastest lap times. People USUALLY say that ME+AWD is the best track combination...but if you look at the fastest cars around any track, they are a mix of AWD, RWD, ME, FE and RE.

So at the end of the day, is it all meaningless?

alpharx7
Post #11597

QUOTE (wolfman101 @ Jan 25 2016, 08:24 PM) *
I believe you're right on that, but no one ever claims that FWD is the path to the fastest lap times. People USUALLY say that ME+AWD is the best track combination...but if you look at the fastest cars around any track, they are a mix of AWD, RWD, ME, FE and RE.



So at the end of the day, is it all meaningless?

rwd for consistency / longer tracks, fwd for novelty, awd for shorter / twisty / wet, would be my opinion.

engine FR in my opinion (overall).

DAZZLER351
Post #11598

Heya folks how has everyone been ?

Just popped back in as i have some turbo stuff to sell and seeing what the goss is on cruising these days ..

Peace out your old mate Daz. thumbsup.gif

wolfman101
Post #11599

Oh hai from all 5 of us.

wolfman101
Post #11600

QUOTE (alpharx7 @ Jan 25 2016, 10:05 PM) *
rwd for consistency / longer tracks, fwd for novelty, awd for shorter / twisty / wet, would be my opinion.

engine FR in my opinion (overall).


That's an interesting take - most hypercar makers would tell you no way, it has to be in the middle...

Shuffs
Post #11601

When you look at the common dog fcuk side of things,Wolfie,what makes for handling?To me it is balance,and low centre of gravity,balance is not having the engine hanging off the back of a vehicle,or indeed at the front,just forward of the rear axle,to me is the perfect place.Low C.O.G.,keep the heaviest parts low,the vehicle low,and the suspension travel enough,so as not to upset the ride.Add to that All Wheel Drive for fine tuned control,and you have a pretty fine package (as you currently do with Stark)I believe you disconnected the AWD,and were not happy with the result,so reversed it.
The Z06 you are looking at now,is astonishingly quick with straight line acceleration,but what are its handling capabilities like?To me the only thing that you are currently longing for,that Stark doesn't appear to have for you,is raw grunt,and when push comes to shove,it is only a 4.2 litre normally aspirated motor,so you tackle that problem,by getting more output from your engine.I bet most of those quick RWD,FWD,vehicles,you mentioned are not running standard engines.Alpha has shown us many times with his videos on small engines putting out large horse power,you just have to compromise with economy,and reliability.I'm hoping you don't race out and buy something that does one thing,but doesn't do another,so I'm afraid I also agree with the Hyper guys,best all round vehicle is mid engine,all wheel drive,a platform you currently have and to me worth more research,just depending what you really want out of this next vehicle......my two cents.

Shuffs
Post #11602

QUOTE (mark1414 @ Jan 25 2016, 06:42 PM) *
Its definitely on my list. Sat on one at the dealer last time

bowrofl.gif

I would love to have a 1000 but at this stage I don't think I need one. It would be a massive step up in power and I would like something to look forward to in the future. I also like the street triple because from all I have heard it is a little more nimble and easy to ride, isn't the throttle response a little bit jerky on the GSX S1000? I would be doing 50% commuting, 50% fun so wanting something that is fun but also easy to ride in city traffic.

Was it 17k ride away? That is a 2.5k more than the prices I have seen for the triumph.

Wise move mate,just stepping up in engine capacity a bike at a time,that's the way I did it,125,250500,750,then once you're up in the big league,you have more idea on control.Dai is very experienced rider,with all the riding he does,and is so used to riding a powerful bike,i think that he has forgotten what a big step it is for somebody starting out

Slav
Post #11603

Getting that new car feeling. Perhaps a BRZ or a new MX5. Spend a bit more and get a WRX or Megane 275. Or look for something used in the region of 35-40k

wolfman101
Post #11604

QUOTE (Shuffs @ Jan 26 2016, 09:57 AM) *
When you look at the common dog fcuk side of things,Wolfie,what makes for handling?To me it is balance,and low centre of gravity,balance is not having the engine hanging off the back of a vehicle,or indeed at the front,just forward of the rear axle,to me is the perfect place.Low C.O.G.,keep the heaviest parts low,the vehicle low,and the suspension travel enough,so as not to upset the ride.Add to that All Wheel Drive for fine tuned control,and you have a pretty fine package (as you currently do with Stark)I believe you disconnected the AWD,and were not happy with the result,so reversed it.
The Z06 you are looking at now,is astonishingly quick with straight line acceleration,but what are its handling capabilities like?To me the only thing that you are currently longing for,that Stark doesn't appear to have for you,is raw grunt,and when push comes to shove,it is only a 4.2 litre normally aspirated motor,so you tackle that problem,by getting more output from your engine.I bet most of those quick RWD,FWD,vehicles,you mentioned are not running standard engines.Alpha has shown us many times with his videos on small engines putting out large horse power,you just have to compromise with economy,and reliability.I'm hoping you don't race out and buy something that does one thing,but doesn't do another,so I'm afraid I also agree with the Hyper guys,best all round vehicle is mid engine,all wheel drive,a platform you currently have and to me worth more research,just depending what you really want out of this next vehicle......my two cents.


That was a well thought out response, appreciated!

No, the Z06 is one of the fastest cars around a track at the moment, full stop.

Faster than the Nismo R35, Porsche GT3 RS...
The 4th fastest car AT ALL around Laguna Seca!
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

Notice what the cars above it are...

Absolutely incredible vehicle.

Anyway, my point is, that seems to fly in the face of the FE is bad, RWD is bad notion.

Also, all Mclarens are RWD I believe...

Related:


NOTE: this car had the wrong aero and was manual, accounting for the unexpected result. Correctly setup ones have been tested since, and trounce the GTR.

Shuffs
Post #11605

In that video,he seemed much happier on the track,in the GT-R,over the Z06,and to me it was because of the handling,he said because of the AWD,he could comfortably put the GT-R where ever he wanted on the track,where as with the Corvette,it was more of a task.They certainly seem to have bought everything together nicely with the 'vette,with the sheer grunt of a 6.2 litre,supercharged motor and wide sticky tyres,and ceramic brakes,and we won't even talk about the noise it makes drool.gif
However,in fairness to the Nissan,it's 350 pounds heavier,also 50 HP less and only a 3.8 litre TT motor,but was still pulling more G forces through most of those corners when they did the side by side comparison,which to me was because of the AWD,also if you take the video out to full screen,and slow the speed down to .25 during this same piece of film you can also see the Corvette has a lot more 'attitude' than the GT-R.Yep,the rear wing was holding the 'vette back at speed,but they removed it,and it became unmanageable,but you say they have remedied this now.
As I said,you have to decide what you want out of a vehicle,whether it be the brute force,and stopping power of the Z06,that I feel the concentration of keeping it on the black stuff on track days will take a lot of fun out it for you,or whether you choose a vehicle something a bit more refined and balanced,more along the lines of the R8,IE:Mid Engine AWD.....Tuff life Wolfie

Dai.
Post #11606

QUOTE (Shuffs @ Jan 26 2016, 10:14 AM) *
Wise move mate,just stepping up in engine capacity a bike at a time,that's the way I did it,125,250500,750,then once you're up in the big league,you have more idea on control.Dai is very experienced rider,with all the riding he does,and is so used to riding a powerful bike,i think that he has forgotten what a big step it is for somebody starting out

Experienced at crashing mamoru.gif It takes time and patience,i've seen many young gents run out and buy the latest 1000 or larger thinking it all acts the same,their the type of blokes you'll see crashed due to inexperience or stupidity. You won't have a problem if you ride within your own ability and willing to learn how a larger bike works.

Unfortunately Nebo/Glorious isn't the place to ride with friends,for some reason almost every ride turns into an ego race and thats where fatalities or accidents happen.

I just added all my milage i've done on bikes[have a spreadsheet for when its time to sell] and i've done a whopping 130,000km's since 2010 and that includes 2 license suspensions at 6 months per pop. Jesus i think i need a life.

wolfman101
Post #11607

I know what you're saying there Shuffs. Certainly the Vette seems to always be the car you have to work harder to keep on the track (there are other back to back vids) but if you can, the limits are incredible. Once again, as per the link, it's running around tracks in the Porsche 918/mclaren P1 zone.

You have to bear in mind that I could daily AND track it, whereas if I get the other most likely candidate (v12 Vantage S) I will need to buy a separate track car (hello old nsx-r...!).

Shuffs
Post #11608

I would like to see you purchase something that gives you as much pleasure in a daily /track car as you are getting now,but when a professional driver says you cannot relax driving this car (did you note he drove the GT-R through a couple of corners with one hand to show the difference ),you know it's a handful.Don't get me wrong,I think the power of the thing would be a hoot,and no one would beat you off the lights,if you didn't want them to,but I think it will be a fair haul,before you learn to harness that power and get the full enjoyment of your track days,plus it might pay to invest in a tyre franchise,to keep those sticky tyres up to it,because it looks like it's pretty hard on them,doing track work

mark1414
Post #11609

QUOTE (Dai. @ Jan 26 2016, 02:05 PM) *
Experienced at crashing

mamoru.gif It takes time and patience,i've seen many young gents run out and buy the latest 1000 or larger thinking it all acts the same,their the type of blokes you'll see crashed due to inexperience or stupidity. You won't have a problem if you ride within your own ability and willing to learn how a larger bike works.

Unfortunately Nebo/Glorious isn't the place to ride with friends,for some reason almost every ride turns into an ego race and thats where fatalities or accidents happen.

I just added all my milage i've done on bikes[have a spreadsheet for when its time to sell] and i've done a whopping 130,000km's since 2010 and that includes 2 license suspensions at 6 months per pop. Jesus i think i need a life.


Yeah thats why I dont like riding with groups. I'm crap and I know it but I am safe in normal traffic and at the speed limit (or a little above) in the twisties. Willing to take my time with the rest. Everytime I go up there heaps of bikes pass me at stupid speeds.

I am old enough now that I do have the maturity to handle it (well I believe so anyways) but really 105hp or 150hp they are both going to be more than enough for the street smile.gif

wolfman101
Post #11610

Singapore airlines lounge is going off.


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wolfman101
Post #11611

Shuffs, also it looks better sounds as good, has more mod cons than and is 50k cheaper than the Aston, which is really the only other thing I'm considering atm. Hard to say no to that!

wolfman101
Post #11612



Shuffs, also related.

Of note:
they both beat the GT3 RS.

The ACR is one of the VERY few cars in the world faster than the Vette. Personally I wouldn't put them in the same class though. The ACR is a track special with barely an interior. The Z06 is luxurious and well equipped.

Also, it's once again hobbled by the manual. That makes a huuuge difference. To the tune of 2.9 to 60, 10.9 in the 1/4.

Dai.
Post #11613

QUOTE (mark1414 @ Jan 26 2016, 04:29 PM) *
Yeah thats why I dont like riding with groups. I'm crap and I know it but I am safe in normal traffic and at the speed limit (or a little above) in the twisties. Willing to take my time with the rest. Everytime I go up there heaps of bikes pass me at stupid speeds.



I am old enough now that I do have the maturity to handle it (well I believe so anyways) but really 105hp or 150hp they are both going to be more than enough for the street smile.gif

If you're willing to learn,i can't see why you would feel uncomfortable on a larger bike.

alpharx7
Post #11614

QUOTE (wolfman101 @ Jan 26 2016, 04:34 PM) *
Singapore airlines lounge is going off.

shouldn't have to wait for service. mamoru.gif

alpharx7
Post #11615

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steven.frazer407839
Post #11616

May I ask if it's possible to put the Rotary engine of a 110S Cosmo Mazda 1960 into a Mini Cooper?

alpharx7
Post #11617

i think this was meant to say Tinder vs Real Life.

seems familiar mamoru.gif


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alpharx7
Post #11618

QUOTE (steven.frazer407839 @ Jan 27 2016, 12:19 AM) *
May I ask if it's possible to put the Rotary engine of a 110S Cosmo Mazda 1960 into a Mini Cooper?

Shuff's may be the best person to answer this, it's like way way way back in the day, so long ago that i've almost forgotten what the more accepted engines that people used to do conversions into mini's with.

so you're talking a 10A twin dizzy engine, which i'll assume you must actually have - considering their rarity, would be nigh on impossible to find nowadays, and would be worth more to sell to someone who was trying to restore an Cosmo. ie it'd be a waste to put it into a mini.

offhand i can't think of anyone who has put a rotary into a mini, vdub yes. i believe that there were other fwd engines that have been done - i'm struggling to remember which ones though, it's just not something that anyone encounters nowadays.............

try these links, and possibly ask any questions there.

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http://vtec.minimania.com/vtec-mini-conversion-kits.htm

http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/forum...ne-conversions/

http://mpdesign.id.au/engineconversion/start.htm

alpharx7
Post #11619

also i forgot to point out, the rotary engine won't be allowed to be older than the frame of the car in which you're going to be putting it into.

Shuffs
Post #11620

QUOTE (alpharx7 @ Jan 27 2016, 01:11 AM) *
Shuff's may be the best person to answer this, it's like way way way back in the day, so long ago that i've almost forgotten what the more accepted engines that people used to do conversions into mini's with.

so you're talking a 10A twin dizzy engine, which i'll assume you must actually have - considering their rarity, would be nigh on impossible to find nowadays, and would be worth more to sell to someone who was trying to restore an Cosmo. ie it'd be a waste to put it into a mini.

offhand i can't think of anyone who has put a rotary into a mini, vdub yes. i believe that there were other fwd engines that have been done - i'm struggling to remember which ones though, it's just not something that anyone encounters nowadays.............

try these links, and possibly ask any questions there.

thumbsup.gif

http://vtec.minimania.com/vtec-mini-conversion-kits.htm

http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/forum...ne-conversions/

http://mpdesign.id.au/engineconversion/start.htm

Hey,you're the Rotary guru,I've only been soap boxing Wolfie,because of my vast experience with Lambo's,Ferraris and Porsches




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