P Plate Exemption - need advice getting a exemption  

_Ben

They require a number plate iirc? See if you can find the form online (I cbf), and see what details you need.

sura man50

yea i know but what if i organised with someone to find out all the details would it still count or would the car have to be under my name? i just dont want to buy some banging s14 then not be able to drive it

sura man50

bump need help please

sura man50

also does anybody want to buy a toyota celica

sr_silvia

I had one for my 200sx when I was on my P's. Yes it MUST be in your name to get the exemption and if you need the factory specs pm me and i'll pass it on.

Mark7

I didn't have a s14 however I do have a r32 turbo the way I did it because I couldn't the factory specifications off the internet because they were all different was to buy the car and get it dyno'd then weighed the car at a public weigh bridge it cost $20 to weigh it at some chicken feed place on the way to the coast. Then I sent in both the dyno form and the official weight form as well as a letter from the mechanic stating that that he preformed the dyno and what power it made. I got the exemption within a few days as long as the car is stock or he has an old dyno sheet which will give you a rough figure what power it will make then it should be fine. I'm pretty sure you need to own the car first tho.

splinter743

Can also get the exemption if it is registered in an immediate family members name - parents etc

TTS

Shut up. No it doesn't.

Twat In The Hat

Just read this. Not hard.
http://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt...le/S4478_ES.pdf

clutch-monkey

reading IS hard for the current generation

Twat In The Hat

Hahaha, good point.

sura man50

i just read through that whole thing (yea i can read) and it didnt say anywere that you have to own the car first, but it also didnt say that you dont have to,, so im kind of leaning towards you dont have to own it before you apply

Faun-

does this generation really deserve exemptions?

TwinCam16

No.

sura man50

some of us do...

TwinCam16

No.

ULOST

Ummm are you leaning that way because it makes your life easier?

From what others have posted (I'm on a remote desktop so clicking links eats balls) ... it 'appears' that you have to weigh the vehicle, dyno the vehicle and then present the documents to the department of transport...

How do you propose to do all of this without first purchasing that vehicle?

What documents are you going to submit with your application?

mark1414

the guy talking about dynoing and weighing the car is an idiot. firstly, the power is at the motor not at the wheels so I struggle to see what a dyno sheet would prove, unless he removed the motor. secondly, the weight of the vehicle is based off what the manufacter quotes as the heaviest of that model, not what some dodge chicken feed place is saying about a 20year old car. the problem comes when you cant with unknown mods. heck, you could put some lead bricks in the boot and get any car passed.

get official power figures and weight on the car but people in the past have got onto nissan or gathered a lot of different websites all saying the same thing.

TTS

Well I must be a complete retard because I just scanned and printed the performance figures page from the owners manual showing the curb weight and power along with the application form.

Twat In The Hat

You don't have to own the vehicle. Find the manufacturer's specifications online. It doesn't have to be your parents car either. This is an exemption for a non high performance vehicle. You can get it on a car before you buy it. It's not the same thing as getting an exemption for your dad's twin turbo Supra because it's apparently the only vehicle available for you to use..

JDMSilvia13

Yeah, I was just wondering how he was lucky enough to get away with anything less than an official spec sheet from Nissan.
Definitely don't take the effort of going down this path, chances are next to none of being approved.

TTS

That's so long as you can write down the VIN and engine number before you purchase it if that were the case. Otherwise, you can usually find an online manual for the car showing the specifications.

Hell, DTMR would probably accept Wikipedia specs.

JDMSilvia13

I've heard of a case where they rejected redbook specs and asked for official specs from Nissan.

sura man50

i have got the official specs from nissan (thanks to sr_silvia) so that clears that up..

Twat In The Hat

Yup, so get the forms and fill them in, it's that simple. If it asks for a VIN number etc, then go get one off the car you want to buy. If you haven't found a car yet, then wait until you do before you fill it in and apply for the exemption.

Kaigje

Hey
I'm currently exempted for a turbo R33 under the 'Moderately-powered' vehicle exemption. Due to some modifications to my car, it passed the 125kw per tonne rule.



I've done ALL the research (and I mean all, I got my first turbo exemption for my last 33 over a year ago). I was in high school at the time and went to my local Nissan dealer and they didn't want to touch it because it was an import. However, I snagged a number for a dealership in Japan and got my Japanese teacher to call them, they said they'd look into it. After all this the nice ladies of the exemption department told me that Redbook is sweet as.


Does it have to be registered to me?
The car doesn't have to be registered to a family member or you. It can be registered to anyone as long as you have their permission to drive it.


Where do I get specs?
Don't bother with a dyno, or weighing it. If STOCK it is under 125kw you don't have to bother with anything. You don't need an excuse to drive it or need to pretend it's your father's car. Simply because it's not a 'high-powered vehicle' (which P-platers aren't allowed to drive). You're hearing from someone that has done it first hand.


What else can I do to make it pass?
Moderately-powered vehicle exemptions are simply mathematical in terms of if it gets accepted or not, there really isn't anything short of a nice letter to the department head accompanying your application just explaining that it's under the 125kw/pw or if you really want to sweeten it up, say you bought it to get to uni/tafe or for your apprenticeship. Write formally too.

Pretty much, if your car is under 125kw/per tonne you're guaranteed acceptance simply for the fact that it passes the only requirement. The people that run that department are really nice and super helpful, just be polite to them and they'll do the same to you!
Kai

JohbeMann

Get in contact with Nissan Australian team, get them to write up a cover letter explaining the factory standards on your vehicle.

I have a WRX under the exemption and it's pretty simple to get. Basically the only way to get denied is if it is over the power to weight ratio or you have a prior hooning conviction.

Wiki0989

I know this is an old thread but chasing the spec sheet is anyone able to assist?

bazr33

They use wikipedia to confirm overseas licence classes....

mudbutton

Hmm, someone with suitable IT skills could have fun with that. Especially Sanjeev or Gupta come here from India only knowing how to drive a tuk tuk and being given a B double license.

bazr33

Just knowing how they drive in general is concerning....

Stupid thing is... that we allow foreigners to drive in our country on their overseas licence for 3 months till they are granted a resident visa or granted citizenship.
It is only then their Authority to drive is withdrawn and required to obtain a Australian licence to continue to drive on our roads.
If they don't obtain resident visa or citizenship, they can drive here on their overseas licence for how long they want....

They still obide by the classes and conditions on their licence.... providing the Police can interpret what they can drive and if they have their international driving permit....

Meanwhile, they have already crashed 10 cars, and on their 11th Camry

mudbutton

You have to admit, those Camrys are f'king tough cars. Amazing how much punishment they can take.

bazr33

hahaha.. exactly... they are the main car you see in Saudi Arabia going 180km down the main drag then rip into 360 spins..
mate had one.. Never died. Had hole in the radiator. One of my mates wasnt quick enough to close his door before he started reversing, got caught on a pole
and folded backwards. And suprisingly felt quite comfortable going over 200km haha..

The Toyota of Terror.

philpug

You should be able to get an exception now, the laws have recently changed and you can now have 130KW per ton so there is a lot of exempt cars now, or you can always get a Austech s15 Australian delivered non turbo, there's other P Plate forums on the internet better suited to answering your questions