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Post #1 post 5th August 2013 - 03:07 AM
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A review of Queensland’s speed limits is now underway, and the public has been asked to name roads it believes should be examined.

A key part of the State Government’s two-year road safety action plan, Transport and Main Roads Minister Scott Emerson says the review aims to apply consistent speed limits across Queensland to make roads safer.

He wants residents to go online or write to nominate a speed limit on a road they believe should be looked at.

“We particularly want to hear concerns about roads with too many speed zone changes, or where there are not enough speed limit signs,” Emerson says.

“Any changes to speed limits need to have the right balance between safety and taking into consideration traffic, pedestrians and surrounding infrastructure.”

Emerson says engineers will consider the potential for lower or higher speed limits where the road conditions have changed since the speed limit was initially set.

After all public submissions have been lodged, the Department of Transport and Main Roads will work with local councils to identify the top 100 roads for review.

Emerson says the review is expected to take about six months and that the results will be published.

He says the review is the first major review of speed limits in Queensland since the introduction of mobile speed cameras in 1997.

“Currently reviews are conducted in different regions of the State. However, this is the first time we’ve called for nominations as part of these reviews,” Emerson says.

The Queensland Government’s road safety plan includes reforming the licensing system, investing $82 million a year in road safety improvements and installing flashing lights at 300 schools.

“The 2013 road toll is currently 17 above last year. We are working hard to make our roads as safe as possible and this review is an important part of that,” he says.

Queensland residents have until September 6 to lodge submissions online or by post to Speed Limit Review, PO Box 673, Fortitude Valley 4006.



I put in 3 submissions on what I think. 1 in particular was a comment on QLD's new zero tolerance stand on speeding. It's inhumane.think about it!

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BukkaneNinja
Post #2

Zero tolerance is great - It will help reduce the road toll massively. People driving down freeway / 80 zones fixated on the speedo to make sure theey don't jump 1 k over.

vk134
Post #3

QUOTE (BukkaneNinja @ Aug 6 2013, 08:08 AM) *
Zero tolerance is great - It will help reduce the road toll massively. People driving down freeway / 80 zones fixated on the speedo to make sure theey don't jump 1 k over.


Yep, I see it when driving in Vic and NSW, a total fixation of speed monitoring vs situational awareness. I think the 10% works fine, if you are over there is no way you can say "i didn't realise".

Keep left unless overtaking needs to be hammered instead, the fn 80 in the 100 zone jellyfishes idea of "must get into right lane, as I am turning right in about 3km and those evil speedsters wont let me across if I don't go now".

There has been a bit of a kerfuffle about a recent downgrade of the speeds for a short section of single lane rd from 100 down to 80. I had no issues with this as it involved a T intersection and a non standard service station entrance as well as there has been fatalities and bad crashes in the area. Yet people complained for the whole extra 15 seconds it added to the journey.

Further along the 100klm zone regularly has snails slowing to 80 as it is too scary for their reptilian brain to manage the fact there is oncoming traffic and trees closer to the edge.

KrisP
Post #4

If you're going to review speeding... Zero tolerance is ridiculous... up the speed limit on highways and up the fines for speeding.
if somebody is going 5kph over its probably an accident and they shouldn't be fined for that. however if somebody is going 20kph over its more often than not deliberate and therefore they should get massive fines

highway should be at least 130kph to the goldie. modern cars (post 70s) are made to do those speeds with ease.

crpstra
Post #5

I say raise the speed limit and fine the idiots that sit under it.

fearlesss
Post #6

QUOTE (KrisP @ Aug 6 2013, 08:48 AM) *
If you're going to review speeding... Zero tolerance is ridiculous... up the speed limit on highways and up the fines for speeding.
if somebody is going 5kph over its probably an accident and they shouldn't be fined for that. however if somebody is going 20kph over its more often than not deliberate and therefore they should get massive fines

highway should be at least 130kph to the goldie. modern cars (post 70s) are made to do those speeds with ease.


I said this 6 months ago. But raising the fines to only 20ks over won't make the government any money ! Instead of charging 4000 people for doing 5ks over they will only be allowed to fine the actual hoons dunno.gif But this argument never ends

crpstra
Post #7

QUOTE (fearlesss @ Aug 6 2013, 09:04 AM) *
I said this 6 months ago.

But raising the fines to only 20ks over won't make the government any money !

Instead of charging 4000 people for doing 5ks over they will only be allowed to fine the actual hoons

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But this argument never ends



It never will.
KrisP
Post #8

QUOTE (fearlesss @ Aug 6 2013, 09:04 AM) *
I said this 6 months ago.

But raising the fines to only 20ks over won't make the government any money !

Instead of charging 4000 people for doing 5ks over they will only be allowed to fine the actual hoons

dunno.gif

But this argument never ends


I agree 100% that having a zero tolerance on speeding is revenue raising. worse still its very obvious blatant revenue raising.
Personally i have no issue with fixed camera or mobile vans or even hidden camera (which we dont have in qld).. if you're speeding and you get a fine you clearly shouldnt have been speeding.. but the leeway on speeding should be there to allow for Inaccurate Speedos, accidentally going a few Ks over etc etc.

I have no issues with the fines being doubled or tripled because it actually discourages people from speeding (points are pretty useless really) Zero tolerance is purely revenue raising.

leadfoot
Post #9

Um think again about hidden camera the unmarked speed camera vehicles are getting damn good at hiding the camera

GODZILLA
Post #10

110 for all 4 lane roads
120 for all 3 lane roads
130 for all 6 lane roads

eXo
Post #11

they will still have to honor the 10% variance in cars because that's what the factory manual even says. If they do push through a solid speed limit with virtually no variance then they better start forking out the $$$ to comply all the cars built going back the last 20+yrs.

KrisP
Post #12

from what i've read the tolerance in a 60kph zone is no longer 10% its down to approx 1kph. but other speed zone remain at the 10%.
1kph over is way to easy to do for my liking and is subject to $146 fine.

patrick_h_oz
Post #13

I've been overseas so I missed this.. zero tolerance? Seriously? Politicians need courses in common sense!

As said above, way to encourage 'road-blocking' (my term for driving more than 10 below the speed limit and holding up other cars, as it's similar to c**k-blocking and just as frustrating). They really need to focus on the basics- keep left unless overtaking, not running red lights, staying in YOUR lane etc first. I've seen people driving 40 in 60 zones and still couldn't stay in their lane going around a corner! That's just shit driving from somebody who should be catching the bus instead.

I've been thinking about ideas to improve driving on our roads a bit lately. I'd happily do a driving test every 5 or so years to keep my licence, as long as the penalty for failure was license suspension and a one month cooling off period before they can retake it. This test should be noticeably harder than the one to get your license in the first place. Driving isn't a right and not everyone can do it competently. Those that can't shouldn't be driving, and this would 'encourage' them to consider public transport if they can't pass a practical driving test.

On a different note- In China I noticed that on a four lane highway the outer 2 lanes were posted 100, and the 2 inner lanes were posted 120. Too sensible for Australia?

Mr.B
Post #15

QUOTE (patrick_h_oz @ Aug 7 2013, 10:46 PM) *
On a different note- In China I noticed that on a four lane highway the outer 2 lanes were posted 100, and the 2 inner lanes were posted 120. Too sensible for Australia?


Majority of people can't merge from an on ramp onto the highway. What makes you think that merging from a 100 lane to a 120 lane will be any better?

patrick_h_oz
Post #16

QUOTE (Mr.B @ Aug 10 2013, 08:30 AM) *
Majority of people can't merge from an on ramp onto the highway. What makes you think that merging from a 100 lane to a 120 lane will be any better?


True.. They can't grasp the simple concept of getting up to speed before they enter a highway in front of incoming traffic.

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Yet another reason they need to focus on the basics first.

The Governor
Post #17

I wonder how many people are going to ask them to put the speed of the entire M1 up to 110 or maybe 120

crpstra
Post #18

QUOTE (The Governor @ Aug 12 2013, 09:29 PM) *
I wonder how many people are going to ask them to put the speed of the entire M1 up to 110 or maybe 120


I would like to see it at 140, But that will never happen.

GODZILLA
Post #19

Zero tolerance for zero tolerance

DAL32
Post #20

I drive down the M1 recently, there was "roadworks" (no road workers to be seen) and no lines so the speed limit is dropped by 30kmh to 80. Bloody ridiculous.

Mcleod
Post #21

QUOTE (DAL32 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:44 AM) *
I drive down the M1 recently, there was "roadworks" (no road workers to be seen) and no lines so the speed limit is dropped by 30kmh to 80. Bloody ridiculous.


I agree although the 80km/h must be some sort of standard maximum road works limit, as the same limit was applied to another section where the normal speed limit was 90km/h.

It does make you wonder though, why is a 10km/h reduction appropriate on a slower part of the motorway whilst a 30km/h reduction is applied to a faster area... just seems a bit backwards and no one driving along through the 110km/h section there does 80km/h anyway.
rmx250
Post #22

I think dal must be talking about the m1 near the logan motorway.I drive it every day and I reckon when there were no lines the speed should have been dropped to 60 especially in the southbound lanes, at 4-5 in the afternoon with no lines marked 3 lanes open to 4 just before the logan motorway bridge then 2 lanes coming on from the logan no lanes marked and places that looked like lane lines but were white marks on the road from the profiling machine, knob heads still doing 100+ others doing 80 and no lane lines there was a lot of near misses,it wasn't a good place to drive in peak hour for a week or so.

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