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Post #1 post 6th October 2011 - 05:01 AM
Hey guys, as some of you may know, I'm looking at starting my Apprenticeship as a carpenter, I was thinking the other day that plastering also seems like a job I would enjoy and I know a few plasterers making fairly good money.. How do you think plastering compares to carpentry money-wise? And can carpenters also do plastering or is it a whole seperate job/skill?
NTG78
Post #2

plastering is a separate skill from memory ... not sure about the money difference

Stephen92
Post #3

Both different jobs so its hard to say who gets paid more.

Carpenters can do plastering as my Boss (Who is my carpentry boss) does it as he hates employ other people who often screw around.
Stick with the carpentry as i think its one of the bets trades but All building trades are hard to get into right now as the industry is having a downfall.

rus_s13
Post #4

QUOTE (Stephen92 @ Oct 7 2011, 12:31 AM) *
Carpenters can do plastering as my Boss (carpentry) does it

Stick with the carpentry

All building trades are hard to get into right now as the industry is having a downfall.


Stick with carpentry and you will pick up plastering.

Stick with plastering and you will know fuck all about carpentry.

If/when the job market gets worse, a plasterer would employ a chippie, but a chippie probably wouldn't employ a plasterer.

AddoBmx
Post #5

All depends if you like smearing white goo on a wall or working with tools and building things you can be proud of.

Edit: I am a carpenter myself and regularly do my own plaster work.

nferno
Post #6

Stick with carpentry. Pick plastering up on the side.

jambow
Post #7

As a quilified Chippy its a good trade but for your working life you make everyone else's. Job easier. And the fuck u lol.

INVU
Post #8

If i were you, i would deff try and get into the carpentry side of the trade, and lean more towards the renovations and then you can do all your carpentry, concreting, plastering, bricklaying. really whatever you want. or though you wouldnt be able to go out by yourself and call yourself anything but a "Carpenter" as you havnt actually done an apprenticeship in Plastering etc. Finish your apprenticeship in carpentry and then think about starting another trade qualification.

IEATU
Post #9

think of it like this

Plasterer ------> Plasterer------> Plasterer
Carpenter -----> Builder -------> 30ft boat

INVU
Post #10

QUOTE (IEATU @ Oct 7 2011, 07:50 PM) *
think of it like this

Plasterer ------> Plasterer------> Plasterer
Carpenter -----> Builder -------> 30ft boat Endless.


B Unit
Post #11

I used to do both, usually on the same jobs, although it was generally just fixing sheets and a setting gang would come through after us. Personally I also say to get into carpentry. So much more variety to the work, and better future opportunities. You will pick up bits and pieces of plastering on the way.

(mr2)
Post #12

QUOTE (AJ94 @ Oct 6 2011, 11:31 PM) *
Hey guys, as some of you may know, I'm looking at starting my Apprenticeship as a carpenter, I was thinking the other day that plastering also seems like a job I would enjoy and I know a few plasterers making fairly good money.. How do you think plastering compares to carpentry money-wise? And can carpenters also do plastering or is it a whole seperate job/skill?


Why not choose what you want to do and not what you will get paid. If you pick something that you enjoy more you will get a lot more out of it.


BAM!
Post #13

Stick with carpentry mate. Plastering is boring as batshit, heavy, awkward work. Besides which, plastering isn't all that fun, quite boring actually. I can't believe it's a 4 year bloody apprenticeship to be a plasterer to be quite honest. There is sfa to actually learn.

Carpentry these days isn't much better though, alot of the new housing estates popping up, they truck in the frames prebuilt, all you have to do is nail them together and set them on the ground, and not much else. laugh.gif

INVU
Post #14

QUOTE (BAM! @ Oct 7 2011, 10:31 PM) *
Stick with carpentry mate. Plastering is boring as batshit, heavy, awkward work. Besides which, plastering isn't all that fun, quite boring actually. I can't believe it's a 4 year bloody apprenticeship to be a plasterer to be quite honest. There is sfa to actually learn.

Carpentry these days isn't much better though, alot of the new housing estates popping up, they truck in the frames prebuilt, all you have to do is nail them together and set them on the ground, and not much else. laugh.gif

really? carpentry is all about putting up a fucking frame and just because most frames these does are pre-fabrication does not mean you dont need to learn how to do stick-framing, you still need to know everything you needed before because not every job you go to will be pre-fab, and quite often they fuck up in the factory so you need to fix it. and sure if framing is the easy side of things, but the roof is where a lot of time and knowledge is needed.

if you want boring, quick, easy work, then go in to eaves, fix-outs and fit-outs.

8700s14
Post #15

I would be choosing carpentry for the variety of work.

Plastering would be immensly repetitive!

druggy
Post #16

honestly would try stay away from the building game all together to hot and cold with work

Mr X
Post #17

If you get into shop fitting you will acquire the skills of a carpenter and a sheeter/finisher. Just keep in mind that they don't really deal with much structural work as it is usually just partition work.

BAM!
Post #18

QUOTE (INVU @ Oct 8 2011, 10:16 AM) *
really? carpentry is all about putting up a fucking frame and just because most frames these does are pre-fabrication does not mean you dont need to learn how to do stick-framing, you still need to know everything you needed before because not every job you go to will be pre-fab, and quite often they fuck up in the factory so you need to fix it. and sure if framing is the easy side of things, but the roof is where a lot of time and knowledge is needed.

if you want boring, quick, easy work, then go in to eaves, fix-outs and fit-outs.


laugh.gif I was having a jab, mate. Ease up tiger!

INVU
Post #19

QUOTE (BAM! @ Oct 8 2011, 10:59 PM) *
laugh.gif I was having a jab, mate. Ease up tiger!


sorry, im just trying to be helpful in a field i know a lot about....

its a little hard to know how to take things in here.

BAM!
Post #20

Easy. Take everything with a grain of salt.

Believe me you're not the only person to know a fair bit in that field...

stockmy00
Post #21

QUOTE (rus_s13 @ Oct 7 2011, 06:51 AM) *
Stick with carpentry and you will pick up plastering.

Stick with plastering and you will know fuck all about carpentry.

If/when the job market gets worse, a plasterer would employ a chippie, but a chippie probably wouldn't employ a plasterer.


This.

57IKS
Post #22

I work for a plasterboard n partition wall company, alot of the tradesman we have on site are chippys probably almost 50%.. but like the other boys said your far better of with a chippy trade then a plastering trade. with that said its a hell of a lot easier to get a plastering apprenticeship then chippy..

Sticksey

RacingForPinkBits
Post #23

Worked doing plastering for a couple of years. Boring but the money wasn't that bad. Never liked it, it was just a job. Some of the fixing jobs/half jobs/nightmare jobs that builders have done themselves and got us in to finish kind of make you want to kill yourself. Though on the upside you get all the offcuts of gyprock to practice your kung-fu skills on when you clean the site up. That said, carpentry would be the way to go.

Lurik
Post #24

hey mate all depends on which company you work for really. i have been a plastera for 2 years now and i get preety good pay, carpertree is preety good aswell

jakefake
Post #25

As a sparky, I think 90% of plasterers are dipshits. Most of them its all about turn over and not about quality.

Become a carpenter and actually take some PRIDE in you're work. After you get your ticket the possibilities are endless as to what you can go do.
I think plasterers money is fairly decent, but once your a plasterer, you're a plasterer! It goes no where fast. Same shit every day nothing new.

wbtonner
Post #26

Lol what a question for boost, lol.

Only good carpenters make good coin. I know a few blokes who are qualified and only making 25-28 an hour.Plastering is a pretty shit job. Basically the same crap every day.

Find a job that you love to do and you'll never work a day in your life.

180sxy
Post #27

My old man was a builder. He picked up every other trade through his years, he could even do a little electrical work.

As it has been said stick to being a chippie, or go be a electrician.... Stupid amounts of money to be had.

VEYRON
Post #28

Seems like a repost

jakefake
Post #29

Plumbing and Electrical are considered the UNI study equivalent.

T4ZZ
Post #30

I would do carpentry, if you end up doing Formwork carpentry on some jobs you might do some patching work (which is pretty similar). You will most likely make better money in the long run and will learn other things along the way. But really its all up to what you want to do..

bagg3d
Post #31

As a sparky, I think 90% of plasterers are dipshits. Most of them its all about turn over and not about quality.

Become a carpenter and actually take some PRIDE in you're work. After you get your ticket the possibilities are endless as to what you can go do.
I think plasterers money is fairly decent, but once your a plasterer, you're a plasterer! It goes no where fast. Same shit every day nothing new.




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Its not 90% its 100% of plasterers hate sparkys cause there to usless to cut out a powerpoint in the right spot even after they have ran the wire there, ive been plastering for 6yrs got me trade and im on good money now, theres heaps more to it then putting up board and settinging it, all the framing work and grid and suspended ceilings.. I dont mind doing it, but id look for a carpentry job over platering if u have half a brain u could make alot of coin building your on houses and shit.. DONT BECOME A SPARKY THEY ARE THE SHITTEST TRADE OUT, THEY ARE ALL GIMP @#$!S THAT DONT NO HOW TO SWING A HAMMER..

matt_e_b81
Post #32

im a panelbeater and that aint rocket science, it pays the bills but i make all my money renovating houses, sanding plaster is alot like sanding bog lol, if i ever do an other trade ill be a chippy for shiz !

jakefake
Post #33

QUOTE (bagg3d @ Nov 2 2011, 06:57 PM) *
Its not 90% its 100% of plasterers hate sparkys cause there to usless to cut out a powerpoint in the right spot even after they have ran the wire there, ive been plastering for 6yrs got me trade and im on good money now, theres heaps more to it then putting up board and settinging it, all the framing work and grid and suspended ceilings.. I dont mind doing it, but id look for a carpentry job over platering if u have half a brain u could make alot of coin building your on houses and shit.. DONT BECOME A SPARKY THEY ARE THE SHITTEST TRADE OUT, THEY ARE ALL GIMP @#$!S THAT DONT NO HOW TO SWING A HAMMER..

HAHA, mate I love pre-wiring a house, rocking up the following week and nothing has been brought through and even though we have plans fucks me where it is! We don't mark out every stud in our plan.

Even when you guys bring the cables through their not even at the right height!!
And yeah we can swing a hammer, right into the fucking sheets where ever the fuck we want cause useless c$@^s don't do their job after telling them countless times they need to bring shit through... Not only does it waste time for us but it also creates more jobs for you when you're back patching all our 'fuckups'

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wbtonner
Post #34

QUOTE (jakefake @ Nov 2 2011, 09:05 PM) *
HAHA, mate I love pre-wiring a house, rocking up the following week and nothing has been brought through and even though we have plans fucks me where it is! We don't mark out every stud in our plan.

Even when you guys bring the cables through their not even at the right height!!
And yeah we can swing a hammer, right into the fucking sheets where ever the fuck we want cause useless c$@^s don't do their job after telling them countless times they need to bring shit through... Not only does it waste time for us but it also creates more jobs for you when you're back patching all our 'fuckups'

END RANT biggrin.gif

This. And I do VERY VERY VERY little commercial work.

QUOTE (180sxy @ Nov 2 2011, 06:13 PM) *
My old man was a builder. He picked up every other trade through his years, he could even do a little electrical work.

As it has been said stick to being a chippie, or go be a electrician.... Stupid amounts of money to be had.

Its not hard to do electrical work. Its just so many people think its just cutting, stripping and screwing it into the back of a power point. Its not that simple.

If your not a sparky, don't wire anything, unless you can correctly interpret the entire AS3000. And have your ticket.

MagicMike
Post #35

QUOTE (Lurik @ Nov 2 2011, 05:28 PM) *
hey mate all depends on which company you work for really. i have been a plastera for 2 years now and i get preety good pay, carpertree is preety good aswell


This is why you are a 'plastera' lol

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