6 Cylinder Hot Rod/rat Rods  

If done right a rat rod isnt a condition its a style

16th August 2011 - 03:38 AM  Reply  Quote

How about you stop hating...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG4pKmHQaRA

16th August 2011 - 03:39 AM  Reply  Quote

Sorta missed my point Deadsled, ok so youve got cool parts cheaply to make a cool looking rod, and as you said try doing that for that kind of money.... its getting harder and harder aint it? And especially hard to build one for that money that stands out huh?

So unless you want hotrodding to die out or become a hobby of the rich you should encourage change instead of knocking how many cylinders it has

16th August 2011 - 04:41 AM  Reply  Quote

well this is a 4 cylinder rod made from a london taxi, I'de have it

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33608333@N06/...in/photostream/

16th August 2011 - 05:02 AM  Reply  Quote

Howly fuk,
Talk about a can of worms !!!

Theres a big difference between a $2500 pile of parts and a complete driving and finished item

To say it cant be done on the cheap

Rolling chassis, (complete with 5.11 ratio hilux diff)nothin
Straight six/auto box,extractors, electric fuel pump, nothin
EK radiator, thermo fans, trans cooler, nothin
Ol Fordson grill,nothin
Steel frame for rear flat top tray,nothin
Full wiring,nothin

Ive got everything here, except a body,have the steel for a frame out here , again nothin
Theres enuf panels and shit lying around,thats been marked up to use,again, nothin
Twin carbs,include manifold, a whopn $15 !!!

So my expenses to date,$15

The wheelbase from the donor is 90 ",which puts the harmonic balancer about 100 MM forward of the front axle line
(This is with a 50mm gap between engine block and flat firewall)
But i can unbolt the front end and move 300 odd MM forward,which would have the motor backward of the front axle centre line
So saying a six WONT fit, is total bullshit
Even at 90" wheelbase
A 1300mm long tray , a 1100mm body, 50mm between the block and a flat firewall,doesnt look to out of proportion
But 102" wheelbase mite look better ???
The radiator and thermo is a snug fit inside the grill

16th August 2011 - 12:50 PM  Reply  Quote

i like this, i guess. not sure if genuine hotrod given the posts above

16th August 2011 - 09:41 PM  Reply  Quote

That comes under a i suppose a well done rat rod (god i hate that term..) or a cartoonish proportions rod.

17th August 2011 - 04:01 AM  Reply  Quote

god there are some dead shits on this forum.

'rat rods' are a term cooked up by seppo's to describe unfinished yet driveable rods. the got the title because wait for it....... they looked ratty. you can blame the media for that particular style car becoming mainstream.
who gives a rats arse if a rod looks like something from a cartoon? it was people like george and sam barris, boyd coddington, and many others that pushed the envelope with street/hot rodding back in the day and look at some of the cars they were building.

17th August 2011 - 05:54 AM  Reply  Quote

With all due respect to you Nick, because I like a lot of the stuff you do, but I think it's actually you who doesn't quite grasp the hot rodding idea.

Doing something countless other people have done is fine, but it's not the only way. Doing it the way they used to do it is fine, but its just one style. When the original guys did those things to their cars, they were not doing it to conform to a particular style. They were customizing their cars they way they wanted to and to be different and to stand out. By saying that only traditional style cars are real hot rods, that is actually against the whole idea of hot rodding.

Also, the reason those guys used flatheads and four bangers is because that's what was commonly found in the wrecking yards and paddocks etc at that time, not because they thought that was the way to build a real hotrod.

Also, dont get so hung up on terms. So what if something is called a rat rod, or whatever. If it's cool, and the person who owns it likes it, who cares what label some want to put on it?

I'm seriously thinking about using my spare '34 Chev chassis to do a 6 cylinder budget hotrod, because I have an engine, gearbox, diff, front end etc already laying around. My other project is gonna be a long way off, so why not build something cheap and fun to enjoy in the meantime. It'll be bare bones, nothing flash, but I'll be having fun and driving something cool.

17th August 2011 - 06:41 PM  Reply  Quote

So a hotrod in this day an age could be a VK commodore, junker LS1 from the wreckers, second hand chrome mags and a dodgy paintjob? Seeing as how its all period correct stuff..

17th August 2011 - 09:32 PM  Reply  Quote

The thing that annoys me is like the example Anchor gave Phil, and the americans do the same. They call anything with a worked engine and flash paint a Hot Rod.

According to the ASRF (and i sort of disagree with this even..) is that a Hot Rod is a pre '48 vehicle. To me, Hot Rods stop at '34 because a '35 onwards Ford for example started using fat fenders and a bigger body than that of previous models.

Now onto the point you made Phil.. while yes, they used what was simply there to use back in the day and that is now what we constitute as "traditional" i still don't believe that using the same train of thought for Hot Rods these days is the same deal.

See, the old traditional Hot Rods actually use parts that are from other models from the same brand. Like you know.. a Model A roadster, with a '32 chassis.. a '32 axle, '42 Merc flathead V8, a '39 box, a '39 diff, a '40 steering column and wheel, '39 brake assembly.. the list goes on.

Using a RHS chassis, with a Chevy cowl and doors, a home built shithouse looking pickup bed, a L300 van front end, with a jag rear, a 245 Hemi six and gearbox, a tailshaft from a gemini, brakes from a commodore, a grill from a tractor, steering rack from a torana thats sticking right out the front for the world to see.. windscreen posts made from pipe ect ect.. is not a fucking hot rod. Its a pile of parts that look like shit.

I'm a traditional Hot Rodder. Telling me that the above mentioned is a Hot Rod is like telling the pope god sucks dick.

18th August 2011 - 12:17 AM  Reply  Quote

As far as the beam axle thing goes, hell.. i've got 3 sets of front springs and a spare model a axle here that i'd of sold you but i want to use the axle as a wall hanger.

They are out there.. Model A stuff is easy to find. None of the rodders here want anything to do with it because their all soft cocks that would rather a disgusting jag front end than a beam axle. I got given a wishbone free for gods sake. Just go to swap meets, keep your eyes on ebay and you'll find it all. It comes up quite regulaly.

Hell, if you decide to do a model a buy the repro rails and a front crossmember and i'll build you a chassis in my jig.

Edit: I don't really understand your comparisons. A two doored EK is still an EK Holden, regardless of being turned into a two door.

Also of course vintage Chevs are going to have 6's in them, they came from factory with them! They all had the Blue Flame 6 up until i think the 49 Chevs where they called them a Stovebolt from then on.

I also think theres not much of a difference between two HQ GTS's one being all original and one having a 9" and a 5spd gearbox. They both appear to be the same car.

You get a traditional Model A and compare it to a hunk of parts thrown together "hot rod" with bits from everything, and its pretty obvious which one is a truer hot rod.

18th August 2011 - 12:35 AM  Reply  Quote

STOP FUCKING JUDGING EVERYONE YOU FAT LITTLE HAIRY MAN

18th August 2011 - 12:41 AM  Reply  Quote

the trouble with "hot rods" 34 and older is they all look the same except oh that ones blue, oh thats red oh and theres a black one
that one has red steelies and that one has dragways. gimme "rat rods" any day i love em
except matt black vk wagons and the other shit with a bit of rust that people seem to think are rat rods

18th August 2011 - 12:52 AM  Reply  Quote

I don't care for reproduction chassis, at least they look original. They are also authentic enough when they are an exact replicat, as opposed to a damn Hilux chasiss. My Model A is an ORIGINAL chassis for what its worth.

I'm aware of rebodied stuff, i don't care for it though.

18th August 2011 - 01:02 AM  Reply  Quote

Dont think you can do it on pre 48 vehicles though. Read up on it earlier.

18th August 2011 - 01:11 AM  Reply  Quote

here nick,SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DOLE BLUDGER

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/hotrod-ratrod-c...=item2a12b8fbd3

18th August 2011 - 02:13 AM  Reply  Quote

Majority of Ozrodders cars are fucking shit anyway, they love L300 front ends and Jag rear ends.

18th August 2011 - 02:14 AM  Reply  Quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxzBeYNSLnc

this is a mates rat rod, international body, chevy engine,rusted body, no paint, home made tray, holden front(wb ute chassis) thames van grill, i guess this is shit as well right?

18th August 2011 - 02:30 AM  Reply  Quote