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clutch-monkey
Post #1506

dad put the clearcoat on while i was away, looks pretty good imo (the colour, my paint job is still average at best)
wbtonner
Post #1507

Cut and buff and she'll be looking mint!

I advise doing this last (if you weren't gonig to already) and you'll thank me if you do. Assembly of a car, something will always gets scratched and if it hasn't been cut and buffed you've got more paint to try and get rid of the imperfection.

74QEE
Post #1508

Hello everyone, im computer illeterate, and id like to know how to do something.

See where it says "my car is better than yours" just under my lovely winnie blue pic.

Im sure everyone is aware that my car is better than theirs, so its about time i changed it.

If someone can tell me how to do it, ill reward you with 50 internetz

THANKS GUYSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Anchor
Post #1509

Never even noticed it. That's odd.

no more holdens
Post #1510

QUOTE (74QEE @ Aug 10 2011, 09:31 PM) *
Hello everyone, im computer illeterate, and id like to know how to do something.

See where it says "my car is better than yours" just under my lovely winnie blue pic.

Im sure everyone is aware that my car is better than theirs, so its about time i changed it.

If someone can tell me how to do it, ill reward you with 50 internetz

THANKS GUYSSSSSSSSSSSSS



I see that, and then look across to "The cars"

Then larf a little

I thought you have it there for shits and giggles

Anchor
Post #1511

QUOTE (no more holdens @ Aug 11 2011, 09:48 AM) *
I see that, and then look across to "The cars"

Then larf a little

I thought you have it there for shits and giggles


Im with this guy. Provides entertainment. What are we supposed to laugh at now?

jebby88
Post #1512

Picked up the new motor today thanks to "Wbtonner" and at about 11 o'clock started work on it. Me and my old man have ripped out the old exhaust,motor and trans. Fitted the new worked 202 and rebuilt shift kitted trimatic...all in a couple of hours!!!
Will have it running in the morning, all that's left is to buy an extractor gasket,fluids and mount the b&m shifter. Cant wait till its running smile.gif

74QEE
Post #1513

QUOTE (jebby88 @ Aug 13 2011, 08:45 PM) *
Picked up the new motor today thanks to "Wbtonner" and at about 11 o'clock started work on it. Me and my old man have ripped out the old exhaust,motor and trans. Fitted the new worked 202 and rebuilt shift kitted trimatic...all in a couple of hours!!!
Will have it running in the morning, all that's left is to buy an extractor gasket,fluids and mount the b&m shifter. Cant wait till its running smile.gif


good to see someone else has motivation,post pics!
jebby88
Post #1514

QUOTE (74QEE @ Aug 13 2011, 08:56 PM) *
good to see someone else has motivation,post pics!

i only have a couple of pics before we started, but ill post them up and ill take some more tomorrow.
74QEE
Post #1515

word.do it now

jebby88
Post #1516

Old motor (red), new motor (black).
Engine bays not that pretty to look at atm will have it cleaned up and painted when i do some work to the body


 
74QEE
Post #1517

i have a similar trio of pictures.

74QEE
Post #1518

Here.


 
jebby88
Post #1519

Cool

Monaro454
Post #1520

QUOTE (jebby88 @ Aug 13 2011, 08:45 PM) *
Fitted the new worked 202 and rebuilt shift kitted trimatic...all in a couple of hours!!!


wasn't this behind a manual?

hope you sorted a stall... I also hope you don't expect the same power output as wbtonner had as the different trans will suck the power and if the converter isn't set up for the stupidly large cam he had (no offence wbtonner) you will find it tough going to keep it running.

jebby88
Post #1521

QUOTE (Monaro454 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:34 PM) *
wasn't this behind a manual?

hope you sorted a stall... I also hope you don't expect the same power output as wbtonner had as the different trans will suck the power and if the converter isn't set up for the stupidly large cam he had (no offence wbtonner) you will find it tough going to keep it running.

I have a brand new 3500 stally, the auto should be the same if not better than the manual

Monaro454
Post #1522

QUOTE (jebby88 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:54 PM) *
I have a brand new 3500 stally, the auto should be the same if not better than the manual



who told you that?

6's don't have the same torque as 8's do, they react differently between auto and manual, hope you aren't dissapointed when you get it sorted. I would take WB for a run and see what he thinks when it is done.

I seriously hope it works out, but if the converter isn't matched to the cam, gears etc.... well, you know.

wbtonner
Post #1523

QUOTE (Monaro454 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:34 PM) *
wasn't this behind a manual?

hope you sorted a stall... I also hope you don't expect the same power output as wbtonner had as the different trans will suck the power and if the converter isn't set up for the stupidly large cam he had (no offence wbtonner) you will find it tough going to keep it running.

None taken. Everyone said it was too big to be driven on the street laugh.gif Proved them wrong with one of the toughest sounding sixes i've ever heard smile.gif
Question though wink.gif How much power would a built' 3 speed and big stally suck compared to a 4 speed?




Good to see you having fun mate! Hopefully the stally you have is the perfect size.

wbtonner
Post #1524

QUOTE (Monaro454 @ Aug 13 2011, 10:49 PM) *
who told you that?

6's don't have the same torque as 8's do, they react differently between auto and manual, hope you aren't dissapointed when you get it sorted. I would take WB for a run and see what he thinks when it is done.

I seriously hope it works out, but if the converter isn't matched to the cam, gears etc.... well, you know.

The stally came with the gearbox he bought so if it suits then it suits.
A few engine builders who have seen the cam specs, help dial the cam in and helped do a tune on it said i'd need to run around a 3500+ stally if I wanted to put an auto behind it. They did say they haven't played with sixes for around 20 years laugh.gif but its what they'd start with then go from there.

Were you thinking smaller?

Monaro454
Post #1525

if it has the wrong converter, it can suck upwards of 30% between engine and rear wheels.

because it is a more direct line with a manual the is very little power lost.

ou can get away with fudging a converter on an 8 cos they have more torque.

to give you an example, on the Monaro, I slapped in a B&M holeshot 3500 converter. when I got the whole thing up and running (with a crap ignition and 2.5 inch twin system) it was dead on 3500 rpm (tested at 70kph and mash it, the converter will flare up to it's stall speed)

when I put the MSD system in, it made little difference to converter speed, car went better though. I then built myself a 3 inch mandrel bent X-pipe system (kept the 2.5 tailpipes which kept the noise down). when I took it for a test run I got to 70kph and mashed it. the car revved straight to 4000 revs and went completely spastic leaving licorice strips all over the road, it felt uncontrollable!!


I think a little bit of poo came out that day.

when a converter is set up properly in the first place it will be from a set of criteria, including cam specs, comp, ignition, final drive and exhaust. like I said, I hope it works out, but V8's have the torque to be able to fudge it a little, 6's don't.

wbtonner
Post #1526

30%, fuck me!

He did get the stally as a part package with a built tri matic and the price he got it for was a steal, so on his part I hope it works out well.

Monaro454
Post #1527

QUOTE (wbtonner @ Aug 13 2011, 11:14 PM) *
I hope it works out well.



me too, not trying to be a smartarse here... just laying it down.

wbtonner
Post #1528

The manual is still for sale if he wants it this time around.

no more holdens
Post #1529

Its right as mentioned re the auto, and the stally
We had a half dead auto behind a 6 ,the thing would get dusted by a ride on mower
Got the auto rebuilt , holey fuk batman

It be more inklind to get the right cam for the auto , cars weight, ratios, ect ect
Than a big mo fo cam and hope for the best

but oh well we will see how it all goes

HSV
Post #1530

Well Asia's conversion certainly has been interesting.

He bought the new engine, we stripped everything off the old one and placed it onto the new one, got it on the box but wouldn't line up with the box at the bottom.



Clutch fork had about 2 inches of play and barely engaged without the rod falling off and the motor wouldn't even turn over, either by hand or starter

Pulled the motor and box both out this time, pull it apart and have a look and found the problem.

Somebody had knocked the original manual spigot bush right in, then installed a auto one on top. With the amount of grease in there we didn't see the second spigot bush until the other one was installed and wasn't letting the bush sit properly in the block and thus not allowing the box to mate properly.

Solution?

ManLand Customs to the rescue................



After measuring the distance of the old bush vs the new bush we ascertained we just needed to cut the front section of the spigot bush off, the old manual spigot bushes used to sit inside the hole with nothing protruding so essentially we were creating a older spigot bush.......



Once this was done, the box slid in like a tourist at a Las Vegas Brothel.

So now we are left with this:



Although as much as I try to talk Asia into sticking a LS1 in there "to get by" (Standard LS1/Auto $1500) he wants to rock the dirty 202 for a while until he saves a billion dollars to spend on a shitbox. So sometime this week when Asia can be bothered coming over, we will slot this bitch of an engine back in and get her running so Asia can finally register and drive the damn thing.

So at this point we have a rolling shell, engine and box on the floor, 7000 bolts and my shed is trashed less than 2 hours after I cleaned it back up lol.

Has only been 8 months since he bought it now......... tongue.gif

Anchor
Post #1531

LS1 it.... Soo simple if you have tools, a little bit of smarts (thats where the asian comes in handy) and a bit of time up your sleeve.

Monaro454
Post #1532

I have a wedding to do with the old girl in a couple of weeks and I have tried, to no avail, to find a set of rims to pretty the dunger up a bit.

With this in mind, I have decided to pretty up a set of GTS rims I have sitting around. Can't believe what some people want for flamin centre caps!! seen a set on ebay starting at $700 cos they were originals. on average, they are selling for anywhere between 200-450, ridiculous.

I saw a set of blank caps on there the other day so the brain started ticking over. I bought a centre cap from rares (comes blank with a decal in the packet for $57), a set of decals for $61 and a 300mm length of 75mm machine grade aluminium for $44.00

now I haven't ever attempted anything like this before, so any tips anybody has for me will be great, this is where I am at atm:


need to modify the tool mount so I can get in further to get the meat out of the middle. pretty good so far though (yes, the bit isn't centred properly, I know!!):






put an 8mm thread in the middle, the tap at school was cactus though (typical rolleyes.gif) kids treat everything terribly in the workshops.....




long way from looking like the new jobbie, but hapefully it will be close:



I have enough material to make about 10 centrecaps. may try to recoup the money I have spent to this point by selling off a spare set!!

HSV
Post #1533

Ash, I sent you a message on FB about some wheels, you get that?

Monaro454
Post #1534

yeah I did man, thought I replied??

just trying this out and seeing what happens!

74QEE
Post #1535

Ash, flip your jaws around so you can at least butt the back of the material up to something,would hate you to take a cut and it fly out,break tools etc.

as for getting more meat out of the middle,are you using tools which have been made specifically for this job or just a standard cutting tool?

if its just a standard cutter turn the toolpost so the cutting tool is paralell to the bed,and go in that about 0.5mm at a time and cut towards the centre.

would help if its a diamond shaped bit too.

74QEE
Post #1536

QUOTE (HSV @ Aug 14 2011, 09:47 AM) *
Well Asia's conversion certainly has been interesting.

He bought the new engine, we stripped everything off the old one and placed it onto the new one, got it on the box but wouldn't line up with the box at the bottom.



Clutch fork had about 2 inches of play and barely engaged without the rod falling off and the motor wouldn't even turn over, either by hand or starter

Pulled the motor and box both out this time, pull it apart and have a look and found the problem.

Somebody had knocked the original manual spigot bush right in, then installed a auto one on top. With the amount of grease in there we didn't see the second spigot bush until the other one was installed and wasn't letting the bush sit properly in the block and thus not allowing the box to mate properly.

Solution?

ManLand Customs to the rescue................



After measuring the distance of the old bush vs the new bush we ascertained we just needed to cut the front section of the spigot bush off, the old manual spigot bushes used to sit inside the hole with nothing protruding so essentially we were creating a older spigot bush.......



Once this was done, the box slid in like a tourist at a Las Vegas Brothel.

So now we are left with this:



Although as much as I try to talk Asia into sticking a LS1 in there "to get by" (Standard LS1/Auto $1500) he wants to rock the dirty 202 for a while until he saves a billion dollars to spend on a shitbox. So sometime this week when Asia can be bothered coming over, we will slot this bitch of an engine back in and get her running so Asia can finally register and drive the damn thing.

So at this point we have a rolling shell, engine and box on the floor, 7000 bolts and my shed is trashed less than 2 hours after I cleaned it back up lol.

Has only been 8 months since he bought it now......... tongue.gif



i dont see an asian in any of these pics?

are you doing all the work for him?

i did something similar for a guy on a couple of occasions and he played the phantom quite reguarly mamoru.gif

GTRVspec95
Post #1537

QUOTE (74QEE @ Aug 14 2011, 04:15 PM) *
i dont see an asian in any of these pics?

are you doing all the work for him?

i did something similar for a guy on a couple of occasions and he played the phantom quite reguarly mamoru.gif


Charlie came out of the bushes; from setting punji spikes to work on the Sunbird
Monaro454
Post #1538

QUOTE (74QEE @ Aug 14 2011, 04:11 PM) *
Ash, flip your jaws around so you can at least butt the back of the material up to something,would hate you to take a cut and it fly out,break tools etc.

as for getting more meat out of the middle,are you using tools which have been made specifically for this job or just a standard cutting tool?

if its just a standard cutter turn the toolpost so the cutting tool is paralell to the bed,and go in that about 0.5mm at a time and cut towards the centre.

would help if its a diamond shaped bit too.



yeah, good idea, thanks Jay.

it is a tungsten diamond bit, the tool holder is bulky and hits on the chamfer I am cutting internally when I get to the edge. I need to machine (read grind) some of the toolholder out below the cutting tip to clear my specific needs :-)
HSV
Post #1539

QUOTE (74QEE @ Aug 14 2011, 04:15 PM) *
i dont see an asian in any of these pics?

are you doing all the work for him?

i did something similar for a guy on a couple of occasions and he played the phantom quite reguarly mamoru.gif


Ninja Charlie in the bushes...........
-Jordan-
Post #1540

Have sweet f all reception where I am currently, however, beach bash 70's land rover ftw! So much fun!

Will get a better pic later - interesting to drive when it has no brakes. unsure.gif






 

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