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trackattack
Post #1331

All of our sprints and racing attribute points.
My Excel is currently at Quattromotive at 88 Old Toombul rd Northgate if you want to drop in and see Ferris and have a quick look.
Cheers Jeff

Mounfield Racing
Post #1332

QUOTE (trackattack @ Jun 16 2010, 07:13 AM) *
All of our sprints and racing attribute points.
My Excel is currently at Quattromotive at 88 Old Toombul rd Northgate if you want to drop in and see Ferris and have a quick look.
Cheers Jeff



Mounfield Racing have a car at Jack Beedhams in Redcliffe ATM for anyone to inspect, after that cars are available for display and currently being moved between Ultra tune, Newmarket, Direct Clutch Services, Albion and Brisbane Mobile Tyres, Nundah. Cars are stored at Chermside West for anyone wanting to see them.

PRO050
Post #1333

QUOTE (Beannie @ Jun 14 2010, 05:46 PM) *
quick question - qld raceway sprints - how many people are usually doing this (instead or as well as lakeside)??

and what track do they run? the full "v8 supercars horseshoe" style or is it a different configuration??

Should be a few excels out there this Saturday for the arvo sprints, going to be a fun day so see you out there Beannie.
Cheers Paul

trackattack
Post #1334

yeah at least 1/2 a dozen Excels have entered.

wasas
Post #1335

QUOTE (trackattack @ Jun 16 2010, 07:13 AM) *
All of our sprints and racing attribute points.
My Excel is currently at Quattromotive at 88 Old Toombul rd Northgate if you want to drop in and see Ferris and have a quick look.
Cheers Jeff

Well do I ask here for said point to be applied :mamoru:

I can think of 2 circuit days off the top of my head..

And GT-88. there is a check list you need to follow for circuit racing that covers everything.
Basically, the main changes for the excel are:
Cage
Seat, secured properly.
harness, most likely tied connected to the cage
throttle return spring
Full race suit/helmet/boots/gloves

we moved the battery to the boot (and secured it !!!!!) and added a external kill switch.
if you can cover that your done.

trackattack
Post #1336

RE Points for circuit racing - Circuit Racing Rankings - http://www.trackattack.com.au/2010/index.p...&Itemid=195

For more info on circuit racing visit - http://www.trackattack.com.au/racing
Vehicle and Apparel Requirements - http://www.trackattack.com.au/forms/circui...and_apparel.pdf
The main things are Cage, seat, harness, clothing.
Correct size Oil Catch can is important as well, my Excel desperately needed one ! (As does my Datsun)

I still have one of sticker pack, can get more if you guys want them.
I also have gloves, boots and a couple of race suits if anybody needs them.

Another Excel has just signed up for saturday, looking good !
Qld Raceway in many ways is a much better place to have your first time on a race track than lakeside.
much wider with plenty of run off, so mistakes aren't punished as severely as they are at LP.

Cheers Jeff

Robby
Post #1337

Count me in for saturday also!

Beannie
Post #1338

yep, just signed up for saturday.

been a while since i've driven the darn thing too.

Beannie
Post #1339

lol, just checked the weather for saturday - at this stage, could be a little wet :mamoru:

180_project
Post #1340

Is it acceptable for the battery to be relocated to inside the cabin and still be eligible to compete in the stock class?

Cheers

Beannie
Post #1341

QUOTE (180_project @ Jun 16 2010, 10:43 PM) *
Is it acceptable for the battery to be relocated to inside the cabin and still be eligible to compete in the stock class?

Cheers


as far as i know there are no rules set for this... so basically i would assume it is allowed. Many people ive seen at sprint days have already done this - though i cannot comment on the circuit racing series - i wouldnt think it'd be any different.

however, i would say you will need the battery triangle stickers placed on the car should it be moved elsewhere from the factory points

anyone care to back up or correct me with this? i couldnt see anything in the rules listing for this

DMphotography
Post #1342

just brought an excel cant wait to start racing

180_project
Post #1343

QUOTE (Beannie @ Jun 16 2010, 11:05 PM) *
as far as i know there are no rules set for this... so basically i would assume it is allowed. Many people ive seen at sprint days have already done this - though i cannot comment on the circuit racing series - i wouldnt think it'd be any different.

however, i would say you will need the battery triangle stickers placed on the car should it be moved elsewhere from the factory points

anyone care to back up or correct me with this? i couldnt see anything in the rules listing for this


Okay, can someone confirm this before I go moving it?

Cheers

180_project
Post #1344

Also, I wanted to check if I can run 'ag style pipe' ducting to the brakes from the front bumper? Is this allowed? If not, thats cool, just wondering.

Mounfield Racing
Post #1345

QUOTE (180_project @ Jun 17 2010, 07:59 AM) *
Okay, can someone confirm this before I go moving it?

Cheers



I am not aware of any rule preventing you from relocating the battery in any class of car. The only stipulation is it must be securely mounted.
Having said that, apart from creating space to mount a pod filter there is nothing to be gained from the exercise in an Excel.

Further to your post 180_project, come see us at QR on Saturday and we will discuss cage design with you.

Marlin
Post #1346

It was my understanding that if a change wasn't listed, it couldn't be done.

trackattack
Post #1347

QUOTE (Marlin @ Jun 17 2010, 08:29 AM) *
It was my understanding that if a change wasn't listed, it couldn't be done.


Yep that's pretty much it. :mamoru:
1 Large gold star for you !

Brake ducting
- Not included in the rules at the moment
- So far I am not aware of any problems with brakes and I think most people are still using the pads that came on the cars.
- Brake pads are "Free" so a decent set of pads should work wonders
- see how we go at QR this saturday, we may need to amend the rules if we have problems with brake fade.

Battery
The Excel rules dont currently allow for the relocation of the battery from the engine bay.
There are a number of reasons why this hasn't been included.

- Cost of Gel battery, battery box, cabling and fixing materials
- Risk of battery coming loose in an accident due to incorrect mounting
- Risk of acid burns if Gel type battery is not used
- Potential decrease in handling if the battery is located behind the rear axle
- Potential to flat spot the rear tyres if more weight is added to the rear of the car (FWD cars lock rear easier than rwd cars)
- I am to lazy to move my battery

Cheers Jeff

PS - Safety tip - Make sure your battery terminals are taped over !

Mounfield Racing
Post #1348

QUOTE (trackattack @ Jun 17 2010, 08:40 AM) *
Yep that's pretty much it. :mamoru:
1 Large gold star for you !

Brake ducting
- Not included in the rules at the moment
- So far I am not aware of any problems with brakes and I think most people are still using the pads that came on the cars.
- Brake pads are "Free" so a decent set of pads should work wonders
- see how we go at QR this saturday, we may need to amend the rules if we have problems with brake fade.

Battery
The Excel rules dont currently allow for the relocation of the battery from the engine bay.
There are a number of reasons why this hasn't been included.

- Cost of Gel battery, battery box, cabling and fixing materials
- Risk of battery coming loose in an accident due to incorrect mounting
- Risk of acid burns if Gel type battery is not used
- Potential decrease in handling if the battery is located behind the rear axle
- Potential to flat spot the rear tyres if more weight is added to the rear of the car (FWD cars lock rear easier than rwd cars)
- I am to lazy to move my battery

Cheers Jeff

PS - Safety tip - Make sure your battery terminals are taped over !


Jeff a quick note in relation to brake ducting which may be a point of interest to readers. I believe there is little benefit to be gained from ducting due to the lack of a decent opening in the front bar to allow entry. Front bars are as I understand to remain unmodified. What I have done is remove the backing plates to ensure air gets to the back of the brake rotor in the same way it passes through a mag to the out side of the rotor. If this is a concern i will have no hesitation in replacing the backing plates.

trackattack
Post #1349

I cant think of any issues removing the dust plates will cause ???
I dont have the car here to look at though.
Are there any problems that inexperienced people could run into ?
I am very conscious of the number of people we are attracting who are new to motorsport
and want to try to keep things as straight forward as possible

slow bus
Post #1350

Jeff

Can we relocate the battery within the engine bay? it takes up some prime realestate in getting cold air into the engine, plus I have already fabricated a box where the battery was.

180_project
Post #1351

QUOTE (Mounfield Racing @ Jun 17 2010, 08:07 AM) *
Further to your post 180_project, come see us at QR on Saturday and we will discuss cage design with you.


I am aiming to come out and see what people have done to their cars, so I will find you and we can have a chat.

Cheers

180_project
Post #1352

QUOTE (slow bus @ Jun 17 2010, 10:24 AM) *
Jeff

Can we relocate the battery within the engine bay? it takes up some prime realestate in getting cold air into the engine, plus I have already fabricated a box where the battery was.



I was thinking you could buy a half size battery, NS70?, allowing room to still place a slim pod and box it off..

Again, this would probably need to be okayed by 'the man' :mamoru:

Cheers

Mounfield Racing
Post #1353

I think battery should always remain in factory position! especially with all the novices doing modifications, this could get nasty!

trackattack
Post #1354

QUOTE (Mounfield Racing @ Jun 17 2010, 12:25 PM) *
I think battery should always remain in factory position! especially with all the novices doing modifications, this could get nasty!


Guys,
Ralph has expressed my concerns here.
The idea of this series is that the cars are fairly stock to keep the cost down with a bit of handling thrown in to make them as safe as possible.

Robby
Post #1355

Some struggle to mount a seat!

Next will have batteries moved with a cut extension lead as the new cable!

BUT... We do have a scrutineer now do we not?

FidEL
Post #1356

QUOTE (Robby @ Jun 17 2010, 01:57 PM) *
Next will have batteries moved with a cut extension lead as the new cable!

BUT... We do have a scrutineer now do we not?

and twist and cello-taped connections

slow bus
Post #1357

QUOTE (FidEL @ Jun 17 2010, 02:04 PM) *
and twist and cello-taped connections


damm I had duct tape, self tapper and zip ties at the ready

180_project
Post #1358

QUOTE (180_project @ Jun 17 2010, 11:08 AM) *
I was thinking you could buy a half size battery, NS70?, allowing room to still place a slim pod and box it off..

Again, this would probably need to be okayed by 'the man' :thumbsup:

Cheers


So I take it this is a no go? sorry to drag this out.

Cheers

Mounfield Racing
Post #1359

if battery is in standard location it should be fine, regardless of size

PRO050
Post #1360

No need to worry about brake ducting guys or taking the backing plate off, had no brake fade at all at QR and I'm running the pads my $100 special came with.
I don't agree with the no battery relocation rule, mounted properly there is no risk at all even in a big roll over.
I have my battery in the back and am happy to move it back to the front, I need some front wheel traction anyway.
My vote is to allow them in the back, can't make all the rules for novices but do understand the concerns.
Cheers Paul

Mounfield Racing
Post #1361

QUOTE (PRO050 @ Jun 20 2010, 07:42 AM) *
No need to worry about brake ducting guys or taking the backing plate off, had no brake fade at all at QR and I'm running the pads my $100 special came with.
I don't agree with the no battery relocation rule, mounted properly there is no risk at all even in a big roll over.
I have my battery in the back and am happy to move it back to the front, I need some front wheel traction anyway.
My vote is to allow them in the back, can't make all the rules for novices but do understand the concerns.
Cheers Paul



Agree with you Paul. Had no brake fade on either car one with backing plates and one car without. Relocation of battery seems pointless to me but if its done correctly there is no safety threat at all. Having said that Paul, you and I have both seen some of the home made conversions turn to shit.

PRO050
Post #1362

QUOTE (Mounfield Racing @ Jun 20 2010, 08:34 AM) *
Agree with you Paul. Had no brake fade on either car one with backing plates and one car without. Relocation of battery seems pointless to me but if its done correctly there is no safety threat at all. Having said that Paul, you and I have both seen some of the home made conversions turn to shit.

X2
Jeff has got some stuff in the work that will help that sort of stuff.

180_project
Post #1363

QUOTE (Mounfield Racing @ Jun 20 2010, 08:34 AM) *
Agree with you Paul. Had no brake fade on either car one with backing plates and one car without. Relocation of battery seems pointless to me but if its done correctly there is no safety threat at all. Having said that Paul, you and I have both seen some of the home made conversions turn to shit.


Have you retained the factory intake tract?

PS. Could not make it to QR on Saturday, it was the annual hardtuned.net meet. I will call you to talk about the cage, Thanks.

benno.h
Post #1364

So where does this battery thing leave all the people who have already relocated their batteries?

Ours has been relocated safely with beefy mounting points, plastic battery box, covered terminals and externally accessible kill switch. I can't really see why this shouldn't be allowed - if people want to keepcosts down they don't have to do it. Simple.

Beannie
Post #1365

mine is in factory location and will be always until a rule states it cannot be for some reason

btw jeff, i think you have the results incorrect in the results (not that it really matters) for clubman track - we bettered our times in the 2nd run? times listed are for the first run.
eg:for clubman track my first run best time was 1:16.8651 (the time you have up), but the 2nd run i had a better time of 1:15.1760

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