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wasas
Post #1296
http://www.morganparkraceway.com.au/clients.htm |
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1st June 2010 - 09:08 PM
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trackattack
Post #1297
QUOTE (wasas @ Jun 1 2010, 09:08 PM)  your car wont comply with CAMS rules for circuit racing. If they are doing a regularity you should be OK for that. |
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Robby
Post #1298
I run federals on Everything... And have been thru more than a hundred of the 595 and RSR. Now i have never had the RSR feel squishy or squirmy on the S14a. |
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GT_88
Post #1301
QUOTE (trackattack @ Jun 1 2010, 08:44 PM) I just spoke to Bill, Morgan park will only work under CAMS. We can get CAMS insurance through Track Attack, but its painful and expensive. Realistically the only way that I would look at Morgan Park now would probably be in conjunction with a CAMS car club that has the officials that we need to satisfy their requirements. Similar to the way that we do our Mt Cotton events who also wont accept AASA Insurance. The only way is to build our class up and then race is to get a group 15+ cars and get our own race under ASSA. The more we get on the circuit racing the better and get it out there for the public to see. Keep it controlled and cost effective for people to go racing. It will take a while but shouldnt be a problem from what we've seen so far! |
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superdave
Post #1303
QUOTE (vlt88t @ Jun 1 2010, 07:48 PM) Heres a link to Morgan Park site and track pics --  http://www.morganparkraceway.com.au/trackext3a.htmThat makes me moist. Looks like I'll have to rush out and finally get that L2S. Will probably have to do some hill climbs to get my monies worth from it though. |
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Evaded Motorsport
Post #1305
QUOTE (wasas @ Jun 3 2010, 01:07 PM) Check my topics... arranging a non timed day, and U dont need a licence. Non timed but I assume we can take our own timing beacons? |
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Mounfield Racing
Post #1308
QUOTE (GT_88 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:15 PM) The only way is to build our class up and then race is to get a group 15+ cars and get our own race under ASSA. The more we get on the circuit racing the better and get it out there for the public to see. Keep it controlled and cost effective for people to go racing. It will take a while but shouldnt be a problem from what we've seen so far! This "proposed class" is doomed to fail unless someone actually makes a stand and sets the guidelines for the approved specification with a time frame in which to have the cars comply. As it stands, any tyre, suspension package or mod is acceptable. As such, if you wish to be competitive you have no alternative but to run a non approved tyre e.g semi slick, re-engineer the struts, change gearbox ratios, air flow meter and piggy back the computer. When there is one controlled vehicle spec more cars will enter comps rather than sprints, all cars will be on a level playing field with the drivers ability being the deciding factor. |
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PRO050
Post #1309
QUOTE (Mounfield Racing @ Jun 5 2010, 10:46 PM) This "proposed class" is doomed to fail unless someone actually makes a stand and sets the guidelines for the approved specification with a time frame in which to have the cars comply. As it stands, any tyre, suspension package or mod is acceptable. As such, if you wish to be competitive you have no alternative but to run a non approved tyre e.g semi slick, re-engineer the struts, change gearbox ratios, air flow meter and piggy back the computer. When there is one controlled vehicle spec more cars will enter comps rather than sprints, all cars will be on a level playing field with the drivers ability being the deciding factor. This is a work in progress year, the tyre deal will take a while to work out, Jeff tested a cheap, long wearing set at the last meet (at his cost). I'm testing a softer set for him at the next round (at my cost), the aim is to find a well priced tyre that will be safer for racing. With a lot of new guys and girls in the class that have no racing back ground we need a tyre that keeps the cars fairly stable. I don't think we need to go so far as to "seal" motor and gearboxes, the cars will be checked when we go racing later in the year and any car found to be outside the rules will be put into the "mod" class. People will try and cheat but it has been proven already that you can go 66 sec with a car that meets all the rules. Peter from Real Dyno Performance who ran the 66 is a seasoned speedway driver and has been kind enough to post his drive on youtube so take alook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUsSdM9OqO0 |
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Mounfield Racing
Post #1310
QUOTE (PRO050 @ Jun 6 2010, 07:14 AM) This is a work in progress year, the tyre deal will take a while to work out, Jeff tested a cheap, long wearing set at the last meet (at his cost). I'm testing a softer set for him at the next round (at my cost), the aim is to find a well priced tyre that will be safer for racing. With a lot of new guys and girls in the class that have no racing back ground we need a tyre that keeps the cars fairly stable. I don't think we need to go so far as to "seal" motor and gearboxes, the cars will be checked when we go racing later in the year and any car found to be outside the rules will be put into the "mod" class. People will try and cheat but it has been proven already that you can go 66 sec with a car that meets all the rules. Peter from Real Dyno Performance who ran the 66 is a seasoned speedway driver and has been kind enough to post his drive on youtube so take alook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUsSdM9OqO0 Hey don't get me wrong I agree totally with your comments. Also take my hat off to Peter for running 66 sec in any form of Excel. But lets be honest, not all cars are compliant at this stage. With regard to tyre testing and choice, if Jeff or any one is testing tyres at their own expense (as we all are) it is hardly a major expense if the intent is to find a tyre that fits your needs in the long term. It should also be noted that I offered to lend a set of new Federal SS 595s to anyone that wanted to do a comparison. No takers. |
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PRO050
Post #1311
QUOTE (Mounfield Racing @ Jun 6 2010, 08:30 AM) Hey don't get me wrong I agree totally with your comments. Also take my hat off to Peter for running 66 sec in any form of Excel. But lets be honest, not all cars are compliant at this stage. With regard to tyre testing and choice, if Jeff or any one is testing tyres at their own expense (as we all are) it is hardly a major expense if the intent is to find a tyre that fits your needs in the long term. It should also be noted that I offered to lend a set of new Federal SS 595s to anyone that wanted to do a comparison. No takers. In my race budget it is an expense to buy a set of tyres outside the current approved tyre list or buy a harder set to see if they're up up it, just as easy to throw the same tyre as Peter and you know it's going to work. I'm not interested in sprint points for the excel just want to get the race package sorted for next year so we can go racing. Happy to use my $100 special as a test mule. More and more cars are being caged so we will have a good field of excel towards the end of year. Knew nothing of the tyre offer, could have used a set as I got a flat in the second session  Cheers Paul |
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GT_88
Post #1312
QUOTE (PRO050 @ Jun 6 2010, 09:10 AM) In my race budget it is an expense to buy a set of tyres outside the current approved tyre list or buy a harder set to see if they're up up it, just as easy to throw the same tyre as Peter and you know it's going to work. I'm not interested in sprint points for the excel just want to get the race package sorted for next year so we can go racing. Happy to use my $100 special as a test mule. More and more cars are being caged so we will have a good field of excel towards the end of year. Knew nothing of the tyre offer, could have used a set as I got a flat in the second session Cheers Paul Hi Guys, We too Paul are in the process of preparing our car for racing also. At this stage looking at the regs etc for this class and watching this forumn are a bit confused is to what to use in our car etc... Maybe Jeff organizes a meeting of some sort to all parties interested in racing this class and get the racing side of things all cars complient. At least we know what to aim for next year. Paul or others, Is there a car we can come and have alook at and get to chat on ideas or what people are using at this stage? Just a thought. Thanks, GT |
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PRO050
Post #1313
QUOTE (GT_88 @ Jun 6 2010, 12:48 PM) Hi Guys, We too Paul are in the process of preparing our car for racing also. At this stage looking at the regs etc for this class and watching this forumn are a bit confused is to what to use in our car etc... Maybe Jeff organizes a meeting of some sort to all parties interested in racing this class and get the racing side of things all cars complient. At least we know what to aim for next year. Paul or others, Is there a car we can come and have alook at and get to chat on ideas or what people are using at this stage? Just a thought. Thanks, GT The posted rules on trackattack are a good place to start, plenty of people will give you help with set up, just have to ask. Real Dyno Performance do prepare cars for a very good price and have worked on most of the top cars. Cheers Paul |
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GT_88
Post #1315
QUOTE (wasas @ Jun 6 2010, 05:13 PM) GT I PM'd you pretty much the whole car setup. springs/shocks, pick some rubber, add a cage/seat strip it and come racing. this isn't really alot else to do... Once your out at the track you will find most people will open up a fair bit more Thanks Wassa! I'll get a chance to see ya next time at the track GT |
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trackattack
Post #1318
The wheels on my car are off a Nissan. |
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Beannie
Post #1319
QUOTE (trackattack @ Jun 8 2010, 05:08 PM) The wheels on my car are off a Nissan. I had to "Dremel" the inside lip of the center hole. I got them off Erin From JDM Garage at Tingalpa, http://www.jdmgarage.com.au/ Cheers Jeff out of curiousity, did you notice any difference for the wheel balance at all? another note, are we allowed to run staggered sets of rims/different width/offset rims front and rear or do all 4 wheels need to be identical? i wouldn't think it'd matter? |
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trackattack
Post #1320
Only had to remove the lip of the inside edge, so doubt it made any difference to the balance. |
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Beannie
Post #1323
QUOTE (slow bus @ Jun 10 2010, 07:54 AM) 15x7 is the largest you can fit, with running a couple of degrees camber in the rear there is 5mm between the strut and the tyre and under hard load the tyre just rubs with the guard what offset and width tyre are you using with those clearances? |
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Mounfield Racing
Post #1324
QUOTE (GT_88 @ Jun 8 2010, 02:41 PM) HI All, Chasing a set of 15inch rims secondhand..... Anyone know of any to go on the excel. Steel/alloy no preference. Thanks, GT Have 4 new 15x6.1/2 AVANTI RACING suit Hyundai Excel (ex-car yard demo actually so have been fitted never driven) As I said 15X 6.1/2 they are 8 spoke Code M2573 black silver spokes. Google Avanti Racing ZERO 1 if you need a pic. $400. Will do package deal with a new set of Federal SS-595s for $800. |
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trackattack
Post #1327
There will be 50 to 80 cars there. |
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