Hyundai Excel Racing Series - Track Attack - Evil things are about to happen to Hyundai Excels  

trackattack

Just a heads up on cheap 4-point ADR Harness
Autobarn Moss St Slacks Ck - $90.00 each.

brendo12

yeah who is ready at the moment for circuit racing?or will be soon, just so i know if i have to pull finger..??

03osh

still haven't even collected the new car let alone got rego or anything like cage sorted.... i can see this getting expensive.. but well worth it!!!

wasas

03osh, we have been running a spreadsheet to keep tabs on what our car is currently costing us. so far its about 3k, with about another 1000 being put in this week.

Brendo, it looks like we'll be ready to race circuit the few final things needing doing will be sorted this weekend/next. Cant wait!

trackattack

The beauty of the Excels is that you can come and have some fun for $500.00 in a stock std one like I did last week.
I was pretty happy with 72 seconds on the shitty tyres and old shocks in the car, probably more time would come with more seat time as well.

If your on a budget then stick with the sprints, throw some springs and tyres at the car.
Most of the guys who were running 69's last week only had off the rack pedders springs and achilles tyres.

slow bus

cage and exhaust next week, then paint should be good for mid April

Jeff have you seen yours with the cage in yet? will you be able to refit the dash in a modified form?

trackattack

someone is getting serious.....




I haven't seen it, but should only require a couple of holes where the 2 front legs pass through the dash.

NISMOgemini

i wrote up a price list for ours, and you should be able to do everythign aloud in the rules for under $4000 including the car (if you get it for $1000 or less)

a little bit more on top of that if you go with adjustable konis

trackattack

adjustable is a dirty word in this series

trackattack

I haven't bought any parts yet, but at a guess

level 1 car - $500 - $1000 - stock std crappy tyres and old suspension 72 seconds at lakeside
level 2 car - $1000 - $1500 - springs and tyres - 69 seconds
level 3 car - $1500 - $2000 - plus shocks and swaybars - 68 seconds
level 4 car - $2500 - $3000 - add 1/2 cage harness and seat - 67 seconds
level 5 car - $3500 - $4000 - full cage and a few other safety extras - ??

anybody who spends much more than 4k for a top level circuit racing car with full cage is trying too hard !

slow bus

[quote name='trackattack' date='Mar 19 2010, 08:15 AM' post='1285540801']
someone is getting serious.....

I think there is only 2 panels that match colourwise on mine, however I only paid $250
I think if you want everything you will struggle for under $4k

Full Cage $1000
Springs $280
Shocks $420
Sway bar $200
Seat $500
Harness $300
Brakes $300 including new pads and rotors
Fluids $200
Tyres $400

If you went half cage you will save $500

trackattack

fair enough, rub it back and throw some plain acrylic onto it, bit of a buff and probably look like a new car.

slow bus

Think cheaper, silver enamel $60 for 4l enough to make the car some what presentable

What is the ruling on cutting holes in the bonnet?

trackattack

not allowed, body is to be unmodified.
whats the holes for ?

slow bus

To look tuff, fast and the furious style that ok racing stripes it is, tht will take atleast 2 seconds off per lap

wasas

then add the little stuff.
timing belt 100
water pump 100
rims 200
seat fabrication to get it installed 250+
engineers cert (if you keep it road reg) 250
safety bits for the track (battery iso, battery box, cage padding, secondeary bonnet pints etc ) 200
plugs 100
leads 75

it keeps going..

If you dont need to keep it road reg you an wipe off about 1000 of your total cost.
and a basic stripped car running lakeside would be beyond the 72's.... (well it was for us, but we've never driven the track before). a decent driver would make all the difference

chris davey

All these prices are starting with dead stock mega cheap cars though. Other option is to buy one that already has some stuff done like exhaust, filter, wheels, suspension. Probably pay more like $2000ish for a car initially but I figure to get this stuff done new is going to cost about that anyway.

exhaust $250-400
filter $50
shocks $420
springs $280
wheels $200
tyres $400

That is why I am thinking of buying a slightly riced up one to start with.

So absolutely no body mods? Not even little riced up bodykits? Jeez, those things look terrible.

I am pretty sure my car will be copping a matt black paint job Unless it actually has good paint to start with but not many of them around.

trackattack

best of the 2 dry runs that I got my white thing did 72.36 and it had absolutely no grip whatsoever.
you guys would do 72's maybe 71's with the same stocky pos with a few laps under your belt.

remember its not a race to see who is the fastest to build a car
improve the handling slowly as your track skills improve, watch the times drop every time that you go.
Ultimately sprints are a race against yourself, use these little cars to improve your race craft.

as far as cost goes everybody will have different levels of acceptable cars.
you will notice the first thing I did was build a good cage.
other guys went out and improved the handling & grip on their cars.

Its like sex, do it slow and you will enjoy it more

trackattack

you are allowed to fit the big wing that come as an option on the later ones.
not sure that the cornering advantage would outweigh the extra weight though ????

Big_Red_

Booked in for April
Screw this talk of 4k!...$500 car, $50 pod filter $200 exhaust $100 new spark plugs and service...another $350 for 6 months rego....eventually throw on some tyres and perhaps 1/2 cage for hopefully $800 combined and i'll call it quits @ 2k untill something goes boom.....really sucks being a uni student, entry fee's alone are almost 2 weeks work

trackattack

$100 spark plugs WTF - iridium ?
cant you get copper plugs to suit ?
I run coppers in my turbo car, I assume you can get them for an old Excel

nodrog

I think there should be a cost factor applied to the points system. There should be an inverse factor applied to the amount spent and the place achieved therefore the more you spend the more you are penalised......... cos then I'll win everything!!!!

So far I have spent $104.95!!!

Car = free (have a sponsor)
Seat = $60
Wheels =$30
exhaust =$14.95
Labour, blood, sweat and tears = free (until "she who must be obeyed" expects compensation for the amount of time I spend in the shed)

Still needed:-

Tyres x2 = +/- $200 (who sells the Achilles??)
cage = DIY (getting the steel this weekend)
Harness = free
Springs = $200 which is better Pedders or King??
Shocks = $200 approx
Pod filter = $15 off the Repco tomorrow
Dry ice = $30
Trailer = $750
Respray = Free (have a sponsor!!!!)

Therefore total on track cost including trailer is likely to be around $1500 - 1800 woo hoo!!!! Without the trailer under a grand!!! Now thats what I call budget racing!!!!

chris davey

how the hell did you get a sponsor for excel sprint series that has only just started?

Got any other free/cheap cars laying around?

nodrog

I have another as spares but it is a 1993 X2 auto!!!! and the motor is a bit old but it is being rebuilt for next year when I get to do the whole series!!!!

And I actually have 3 sponsors!!!! Just business friends/acquaintences who are willing to help out.

trackattack

pedders front and kings rear.

NISMOgemini

whats the reason for the mix and match???
iv always avoided pedders

trackattack

If your buying the off the shelf lowered springs for a hyundai excel
AFAIK
the pedders front is stiffer than the kings front
and the kings rear is stiffer than the pedders rear

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the more i see of the sprint day pictures, the more i want to get in on this series....

unfortionately all the spare money is being sucked up into the wedding.... i'll have to wait until next year!

chris davey

discount wedding dress/cake mate. Too easy

wasas

LANCE!! Come race mate! its wicked fun

trackattack

I was picturing a lakeside wedding reception

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welp, my soon to be grandmother in law has an excel..... i'm keeping an eye on it. Hahaha

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looking at the rules, are you allowed to port and/or polish the head and manifolds?

trackattack

Nope.
we are trying to keep costs down, so no engine modifications allowed.

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no worries, maybe worth clarifying that in the rules?


so what i infer, is exhaust is free except for manifold (and noise limitations), intake is free except for manifold. engine mods are limited to those that can be done without opening the engine (so something like advancing the ignition timing would be about it, leaning off the fuel with a fuel reg), no wiring mods allowed (so using resistors on temp sensors and the like are frowned on)

yes?