Hyundai Excel Racing Series - Track Attack - Evil things are about to happen to Hyundai Excels  

Beannie

not tread depth, but more like how soft the tyre is... ie a 200 UTQG (treadwear) rating will wear in half the time a 400 UTQG tyre will.

Most road tyres are about 420-500, sports tyres about 280-400 and 'semislick' tyres about 140-260.
my road tyre achilles platinum atr are a 420 UTQG. lots of understeer, but a good performing "road" tyre

wasas

can you run a 205 on a 6.5" rim?

and we'll be almost ready for the first round of circuit I hope. need to get a cage and a few bits done (water pump/timing belt :S) before we are back out there, still cant wait to have another fang around

Beannie

jeff, can i understand something, if a tyre is under 200 UTQG rating, and still under $300rrp, does it need to be approved to be able to run it?>

wasas

nothing under UTQG under 200.
nothing with a rrp over 300.

they are 2 separate things

benno.h

Jeff what's the go with roll cages? We're getting pretty close to race date...

trackattack

I haven't set a tyre width as the strut & guard & camber combo will do that.
you might find that you cant run a 205 and lots of neg camber.
but thats up to the individual drivers to work out how they want to tackle that.

I wouldn't run a 205 on a 6.5" rim, too much sidewall flex as I think the tyre is too wide for the rim.




If the rating is MORE than 200 treadwear and the manufacturers published RRP is less than $300 then you can use those tyres without approval, but if in doubt just ask and I will confirm if they are OK or not.

I have concerns about the financial burden of running really soft tyres which is why I am restricting how soft the tyres can be.
You will still get great performance from the approved tyres, hopefully without having to replace them constantly.

Innuendo

Photos are up here; Clicky here. Feel free to take any of my photos for the track attack site Jeff.

Evaded Motorsport

Nah, Semi slicks & Slicks range from 0-100, "Sports Tyres" are 100 - 220-240ish and anything up from there I would merely consider just a normal road tyre.

Also the treadwear rating won't necisserily be half their are other factors that come into play.



Yes it will fit.

trackattack

do you want to race at QR on the 28th ?

Minimum requirement for circuit racing is a 4-point cage + race seat and harness etc
see here - http://www.trackattack.com.au/racing

Paul (PRO050 here on Boost) has my car and is measuring up the steel required.
If you want him to build you a cage you will have to let him know when you need it for, I think he has a lot on at the moment.
hopefully will have the price confirmed for your guys in a day or 2.

NISMOgemini

are yous getting 205's under the gaurds??? or only 195?? the ku36's seem to be only avail in the 205 not 195

PRO050

Doing a full cage for Jeff at the moment, can bend up a half for you at the same time but you'll have to get it to me asap so I can weld it in.
Best PM me.
Cheers Paul

Beannie

I stand corrected

might have to hunt something better, but most 'good' ones are 15's.....the expense of 14's to 15's will kill me for now i'll just plug along with 14s

trackattack

from what I have seen you can fit the 205, but it limits the amount of neg camber you can run.
I am pretty sure that one of the cars there on the weekend had 205x50x15 KU's on it.

so you have to decide what you want more tyre or more neg camber.
Note: the tyres cant protrude outside the guards.

superdave

Jeff, thought about contacting Hyundai about series sponsorship?

trackattack

question has been asked, waiting on an answer.

wasas

So Whos seriously going to be ready, or are looking to be ready for the circuit racing?

NISMOgemini

so circuit is going ahead now?? nice
will it be just excels on the track during??

trackattack

OH yes circuit racing is definitely going ahead !
At first we will share the track with other sedans, probably have a few good battles with old datto's, geminis etc.
Once we get enough cars we can run our own groups.

NISMOgemini

shit yes it sucks balls i have to wait 4-5 months before getting out there

Big_Red_

Can't wait till my debut in April ...that $60 for extra drivers is really rough though

wasas

Yeah, apparently didn't have it before I've had some big discussions about this (as we have split the car 3 ways) and to best way to do it is to double enter the car and the second entry is $40 less. Still, its pretty rough.

03osh

can't wait til april. this is gonna be so good!

nodrog

does anyone know if Nissan S13/ CA rimms will fit??

brendo12

hopefully ill be ready april sometime, been doing some late nights trying to get it ready, just need to sort tyres and cage now and its ready to go.........what pads are people using?

Beannie

im using supercheap ferodo's one of the cheapest shit around

03osh

s13 is the same as lantra (15") which again is the same as excel being 114.3. although you would have to check offset and tyre size

trackattack

yeah i was thinking that factory mags of the Nissan might be a good fit.
I think that they are +40 which should be in range for the excel.
hoping to trial fit some this weekend if my mate hasn't sold his silvia by then.

slow bus

Can you change the wheel size to 16 max, there is alot more out there in 16 inch, and tyres are pretty much the same price

wasas

15's make it a challenge, other wise it'd be too easy

Also, we are busting balls to get our car ready for the first circuit races in a few weeks, hows everyone else looking for it?

Beannie

keep it to max 15". maybe next year rules can be looked into and changed.

people are already spending heaps to get 15's on the car... this is supposed to be a 'cheap' racing series

slow bus

if it is going to stay at 15" max then I will run adapters and use my old rx7 wheels

more than one way to skin a cat

trackattack

we only went to 15" because a few of the guys had cars that came with 15" wheels and there didnt seem any point in making people spend money to go back to a smaller wheel with less tyre options.

16" will just make it more expensive.
15" will be that maximum wheel diameter unless there is a very good cost reason to change.

I am currently still running 13" wheels and the tyres that they came with

NISMOgemini

15" is more than big enough for such a small car.

the Gemini series cars are (have always been) using 13's

chris davey

What was the contact details of that fella buying excels at auctions again? Sorry I couldn't see it in the last few pages.

Has anyone bought theirs from him? I understand no rwc/rego or anything. I will be using this as a road car as well so would like to get something that is basically in rwc condition. Wasn't sure if I should go through him or pay a bit more and try and find a semi-riced up one already hopefully with exhaust/air filter and rims good to go for racing

trackattack

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