B6 Engine Turbo? - turbocharge a 1.6L b6 engine  

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27th February 2010 - 08:25 PM  Reply  Quote

if you equipe your normal b6 with a turbo of similar spec to that of the stock turbo engine you could expect to make about the same power. however you would face the possibility of bending or even snaping a rod neither of which is good. you would also need to replace flash or do something to the ecu as well as tune and dyno it to makesure everything is hunky dory. you would also then need an engineers certificate because you hae changed the induction properties of the vehicle and get it emmissions checked.

27th February 2010 - 08:56 PM  Reply  Quote

it would be benficial and probably alil cheaper for you to find a already turboed engine. however a swap comes with it's own costs and expenses. a factory equiped engine would be beter equiped to handle stock boost or slightly more but any sort of extremes would call for an upgradeof the internals.

swaping in the engine is probably alittle bit more simple than trying to aftermarket equipe a nonturbo engine. you will however be beter off buying a engine halfcut. because you will need a new ecu to control the new engine probably need to replace at a minimum the engine control loom modify the front mount intercooler area to accomodate it.

i am currently looking into swaping out the 1.8l engine from my lancer in favour of the evo 2.0l turbo. while i could fit a turbo to this current engine it clearly is not desighned for it with the rocker/cam cover being much weaker than that of it's tubro counterpart.

28th February 2010 - 11:34 AM  Reply  Quote

LOL! dont listen to a word said above, b6t rods are tuff. is ur b6 a twincam or single. if its single throw it in the bin. it is cheaper and easier just to get a B6t motor with loom and ECU, the NA b6 gear box's are weak turbo 1's are better, or even better again just to buy a car with a b6t in it, if your car is a MX5 then go on ebay and buy a turbo kit. if its not then just buy a laser motor. these motors are pritty good mines almost pushing 300. should be well over that this year. at jambo/powercruise time

28th February 2010 - 11:38 AM  Reply  Quote

i only state a posiblility of a replacment rods as i have no experience with b6 engines i could not attest to their strength.

but as stated above a sohc engine is no good for equiping a turbo if it is a sohc engine replace with a b6t from a HALF CUT.

a half cut will save you from a tone of headaches as opposed to buying just an engine. a half cut will come with everything you need. including bigger brakes which i strongly recomend you put on if going for some big power.

and while ecu's maybe poo theres no guarantee that your current one will crank the new engine over without serious fidling

an engine swap at home would probably take about 2 months if you dont know what your doing. can be done in alot less i got quoted on 8 hours to swap the engine in my lancer

28th February 2010 - 11:44 AM  Reply  Quote

and if going from a sohc to a dohc theres more sensors different looms just casue they're both b6 engines does not make them the same. because by your logic i could go grab a 4g93t out of a gsr or a 4g93p out of a gti and it would work in my lancer where in fact it would not.

a half cut would be the best way to avoid most issues not to mention supply much needed safty upgrades via bigger brakes which if you bought them seperatly would end up costing more.

here two quotes i got to swap a 4g63 into my lancer

half cut $3000
icludes
complete engine
all electrical looms
ecu
larger breaks
turbo
intercooler
afm
brake master cylinder
coilpacks
basily everything from the front seats forward obviously not all of this is needed (sell it)

same stuff to do on its own
evo brakes and hubs $150
master cylinder $50
4g63 engine $3000 fully rebuilt NO TURBO fitted.
ecu $200
engine loom $20
and the list goes on while some parts could probably be sourced cheaper going out and finding what you need after not getting all in the first place costs time energy and ultimately more $$$$$ buying a half cut saves time and money and the parts he remove replaces and does not need anymore can be sold to reduce the cost of his conversion.

28th February 2010 - 12:06 PM  Reply  Quote

everyone my car is a double overhead cam.not single.

28th February 2010 - 07:50 PM  Reply  Quote

B6T has oil squirters for the pistons, and a fined sump, which the B6 does not, and as said the B6T rods are alot tougher items

28th February 2010 - 07:52 PM  Reply  Quote

oh and the dizzy has boost retard, which the B6 dizzy wont

all in all there quite different
there both just 1.6L B-series engine

28th February 2010 - 07:53 PM  Reply  Quote

get a B6T and put it in a 121 is the best option

28th February 2010 - 07:56 PM  Reply  Quote

hey mate. seriously your not going to get the sort of power you want from your motor +turbo. but if you intend on buying a turbo motor for it(familia gtr is the best but $$$$y), i'd throw the kit off a gtx or gtr on it. hit it with 8psi and see how you go!

28th February 2010 - 08:11 PM  Reply  Quote

at op a HALF CUT is basicaly everything from the front seats forward of another car quite simply put

if you took a chainsaw to you car from just infront of the seats and proceded to cut the vehical into two pieces you'd have two half cuts a front cut and a rear cut. you want the front cut of a car that came factory equiped with a b6t. these are generaly taken from working vehicles

this is a front cut http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nkw=half+c...t=0&bkBtn=1

by getting a half cut you are able to use all the vital components you'd need for a conversion im not exactly familiar with what vehicles they came in i found one b6t engine for sale but he wants way to much for an engine that needs a rebuild oil leaks etc and as i stated earlier no intercooler afm or any of the other components. that you or your engineer deem that you need.

i can't seem to find one for you vehicle but if you call around the wrecker im sure you could find one

28th February 2010 - 09:05 PM  Reply  Quote

a half cut or front cut is the entire front end of a vehicle. it includes everything from the engine to the breaks and some times even front bar and fenders. these are used primarily in engine swaps or for parts because they will inlcude everything you need to get that engine running in another car including the electrics.

while i couldn't find one with that particular engine on ebay or the net here is what one looks like.
http://cars.shop.ebay.com.au/Car-Parts-Acc...d=p3286.c0.m282

call around your local import specialists and wreckers they will probably have what your looking for.

1st March 2010 - 09:57 AM  Reply  Quote

just get a early laser tx3/capri xr2(whole cars can be had reasonably cheap) or a early 323 gtx half cut with the B6T and drop the engine into yours.
It's pretty straight forward then.....you have everything you need to do the swap. If you've got the coin, give the donk a freshen up, they're getting a bit long in the tooth

2nd March 2010 - 05:16 PM  Reply  Quote

^^ As above.

Dont waste time with the stock engine, you could sell the stock motor on fleabay for around $300 as well.

2nd March 2010 - 06:02 PM  Reply  Quote

he's suggesting take the enitre engine out of your car and replace it with the one from the cut. you could then offset some of the costs involved by selling the parts you swap out.

to do the swap properly you will need everything from the windsheild forward. while all may not be completly neccessary i would be including from the half cut
suspension/breaks
engineand all vitals
eg intercooler, turbo, manifolds, etc
pipeing
sensors
wireing looms
aircon
altenator

replaced items that i'd get new would be all belts
all perishable hoses ie waterlines oil lines
airfilter
spark plugs and leads

you could then sell the parts you pull of your vehicle in the classifeids or ebay to lower the amount your out of pocket.

5th March 2010 - 10:35 PM  Reply  Quote

if you want all the bits to do this pm me!

19th March 2010 - 03:40 PM  Reply  Quote