Fastest P Plate Legal Car - always wondered  

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Dshwam
Post #246

it have tp be new xr6 wouldnt it????

Parag0n
Post #247

Anything with a 10App, cops will hound you and your wallet will be empty.

B Unit
Post #248

QUOTE (C1V1C @ Jul 30 2009, 10:08 AM) *
Off the mark a mates civic beat a My06 Sti until about 3rd gear. There still quick off the start

How does your mates civic go against an actual fast car though?

rich85
Post #249

QUOTE (B Unit @ Jul 30 2009, 08:50 PM) *
How does your mates civic go against an actual fast car though?


zing!

mx6 guy
Post #250

but even a mod as simple as an exhaust on a aurion would make it over the limit for P platers, as its right on the 200kw limit already, but something thats only got say 180-190kw could have a few little things here and there, and the cop won't be able to tell how much extra kw's it actually has more over stock
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lke91
Post #251

well really your not allowed anymore then 200KW
so that rules out aurions.
But I have never heard of a cop taking someones car and throwing it on a dyno.
Plus Dyno is an estimate not accurate anyways.
But i would probably say any ecotec engine commodore or xr6
they aernt lighting fast but they have some balls.
The new v6's have more power then the old vn, vp, vs etc V8's

mx6 guy
Post #252

the threads getting a little stray, the FASTEST p plate leagle car, and people are putting up commodore and xr6??.. yeah there good for 15's!! S2000, GOLF R32, LOTUS ELISE, AUDI TT V6. there's a few there that would rip the fuck out of a commodore or xr6 in every way. exept price, but as far as it goes, state's fastest car, not cheapest or value for money or fuel ecomomy or overall kw.

lke91
Post #253

yeah but the question is p-plate car
i have never really seen a p plater drive a s2000 or gti gold
haha
but its true what you say.
Agreed

smile.gif

mx6 guy
Post #254

QUOTE (lke91 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:44 PM) *
yeah but the question is p-plate car
i have never really seen a p plater drive a s2000 or gti gold
haha
but its true what you say.
Agreed

smile.gif

yeah, there's not many, but mainly the fact that they are leagle for us to drive, me for instance was tossing up between an elise, s2000 and golf r32. and will be looking into buying a golf R32 at the end of the year. mx6's don't go to bad, and are just as cheap as a commodore or xr6. handle alot better too. there not the first thing that pops into mind but there good for what they are. FWD is a bitch though.

GTRwilson
Post #255

QUOTE (mx6 guy @ Jul 30 2009, 10:37 PM) *
the threads getting a little stray, the FASTEST p plate leagle car, and people are putting up commodore and xr6??.. yeah there good for 15's!! S2000, GOLF R32, LOTUS ELISE, AUDI TT V6. there's a few there that would rip the fuck out of a commodore or xr6 in every way. exept price, but as far as it goes, state's fastest car, not cheapest or value for money or fuel ecomomy or overall kw.

Actually, the commodores are good for a low 14 with tune, diff gears and exhaust. Post up some times for the cars you mentioned, and the costs associated with them for a laugh.

QUOTE (mx6 guy @ Jul 30 2009, 10:50 PM) *
mx6's don't go to bad, and are just as cheap as a commodore or xr6. handle alot better too. there not the first thing that pops into mind but there good for what they are. FWD is a bitch though.

lol? They would be lucky to get a 9 sec in 0-100. Also Commodore with some cheap coilovers > MX6.

lil_foy
Post #256

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 30 2009, 10:14 PM) *
Actually, the commodores are good for a low 14 with tune, diff gears and exhaust. Post up some times for the cars you mentioned, and the costs associated with them for a laugh.


lol? They would be lucky to get a 9 sec in 0-100. Also Commodore with some cheap coilovers > MX6.

Coilovers and cheap should never be in the same sentence.
You pay for what you get!

mx6 guy
Post #257

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 30 2009, 10:14 PM) *
Actually, the commodores are good for a low 14 with tune, diff gears and exhaust. Post up some times for the cars you mentioned, and the costs associated with them for a laugh.


lol? They would be lucky to get a 9 sec in 0-100. Also Commodore with some cheap coilovers > MX6.

well all the commodore's i'v raced must of only been good for 0-100 in 10 secs?? plus this thread isn't about cost, just simply the fastest p plate legal car. as mentioned good for low 14's the car's i'v said are good for that stock..., but YES all will agree that you will spend 100000 time's more money for one of those cars, but simply a commodore or xr6 is outright NOT the fastest P plate legal car.
and actually for the mx6's year, it was very competitive with v8's back then, in 1992. in such as 0-100 in 7.5 and 15.4 1/4 and you can legaly get the jap spec one too, witch is good for 6.2 and 14.7

SR4LYF
Post #258

QUOTE (mx6 guy @ Jul 31 2009, 09:39 AM) *
well all the commodore's i'v raced must of only been good for 0-100 in 10 secs?? plus this thread isn't about cost, just simply the fastest p plate legal car. as mentioned good for low 14's the car's i'v said are good for that stock..., but YES all will agree that you will spend 100000 time's more money for one of those cars, but simply a commodore or xr6 is outright NOT the fastest P plate legal car.
and actually for the mx6's year, it was very competitive with v8's back then, in 1992. in such as 0-100 in 7.5 and 15.4 1/4 and you can legaly get the jap spec one too, witch is good for 6.2 and 14.7


Use to cruise with a guy that had a dead stock 5spd supra with over 120Ks of thrashing on the clock it ran 14.5-14.7s all the time and it had a fucked lsd or open centre diff. I reckon the szR late model with 6spd and i 'think' vvti or not must haul arse. Even so couple of breathing mods, zorst and tune would be respectble on the street.

MYB16
Post #259

I'm going to throw the 147 & 156GTA's into the mix as well. They will well and truely run with a modded WRX. Which I found surprising when I raced a mate in his MY05 with intake & ECU mods.

SR4LYF
Post #260

QUOTE (MYB16 @ Jul 31 2009, 10:40 AM) *
I'm going to throw the 147 & 156GTA's into the mix as well. They will well and truely run with a modded WRX. Which I found surprising when I raced a mate in his MY05 with intake & ECU mods.


boost cruising should have a P plater eligable car drag off. Where to enter you run your car at a test and flog. And scan your timeslip in and yeah see who has the fastest poosar, 6 cyl commy and falco, NA supra, silvia ect and the winner gets nothing but boost glory haha. Obviously with pic of car with drag number for serious competitor

EDIT: beter then racing on street or racing mates off lights ect and the time slip tells all. $38 gets you and a passenger in at willowbank

C1V1C
Post #261

QUOTE (B Unit @ Jul 30 2009, 08:50 PM) *
How does your mates civic go against an actual fast car though?


Beats most soarers even 1j's, modded Skylines, destroys monaro's and most other cars. Plus its N/A


QUOTE
yeah but the question is p-plate car
i have never really seen a p plater drive a s2000 or gti gold
haha
but its true what you say.
Agreed


Every see a silver S2000 around brisbane had the plates 666ISJ. My mate was 18 when he owned it. Just because you haven't seen or know somebody who owns one doesn't mean its not true.

bookie84
Post #262

lol at gay people

02GZM
Post #263

Lol a p-plater QR/Willowbank day would actually be interesting. I'd probably go watch the shenanigans

boostd_civic
Post #264

vtec??

s2000 probably best overall option

MATTYBE
Post #265

Gemani...

>.>

SR4LYF
Post #266

QUOTE (02GZM @ Jul 31 2009, 11:27 AM) *
Lol a p-plater QR/Willowbank day would actually be interesting. I'd probably go watch the shenanigans


It would be kool i reckon stripped V and E series chariots, sr20 pulsars with faties on front, lasers BP's, hondas but no engine swaps. It would get people doing the lil tricks with custom CAI intakes, light weight ect and must of all fun ahah wich would be reasonably cheap!! also racing round QR would be sick too.

B Unit
Post #267

QUOTE (C1V1C @ Jul 31 2009, 11:23 AM) *
Beats most soarers even 1j's, modded Skylines, destroys monaro's and most other cars. Plus its N/A

So your friends civic is stock? I'm guessing it's worked and he is racing stock 1J soarers. The point I was making is STi's aren't considered quick when they are stock, although they are getting quicker each year. And 2 door commodores are big and heavy and slow too.

Civics can be reasonably quick because they are so light, I will give you that though smile.gif

C1V1C
Post #268

QUOTE (B Unit @ Jul 31 2009, 12:21 PM) *
So your friends civic is stock? I'm guessing it's worked and he is racing stock 1J soarers. The point I was making is STi's aren't considered quick when they are stock, although they are getting quicker each year. And 2 door commodores are big and heavy and slow too.

Civics can be reasonably quick because they are so light, I will give you that though smile.gif


Never said it was stock =P. but yeah i'd expect more from an sti. The Sti does have an exhaust system and cold air intake and thats it so far. Also raced the new hatchback wrx's twin turbo. Kept up to that on straights but got owned on corners. As to be expected

mark1414
Post #269

QUOTE (mx6 guy @ Jul 30 2009, 09:37 PM) *
the threads getting a little stray, the FASTEST p plate leagle car, and people are putting up commodore and xr6??.. yeah there good for 15's!! S2000, GOLF R32, LOTUS ELISE, AUDI TT V6. there's a few there that would rip the fuck out of a commodore or xr6 in every way. exept price, but as far as it goes, state's fastest car, not cheapest or value for money or fuel ecomomy or overall kw.


I always thought the 'TT' meant twin turbo???

C1V1C
Post #270

QUOTE (mark1414 @ Jul 31 2009, 01:22 PM) *
I always thought the 'TT' meant twin turbo???


1st Generation - 1998-2006
There are two engines in different models the 1.8Ltr Turbo engine and the 3.2Ltr V6

2nd Generation - 2006 -
Has various types of engines, 1.8Ltr Turbo, 2 Ltr Turbo, 3.2Ltr V6, 2.5Ltr Turbo

[Type_S]
Post #271

I know for a fact that standard DC5S Integras keeps up with near standard 2006 WRXs, V35 Skyline's (350Z engine), Mini Cooper S (turbo), VE SV6's.

So if you are a P plater and want a car thats not going to cost too much, has good handling, and is not going to drift into a pole, and that is P plate legal I would recommend a DC5R/S (as long as you dont put some cheap ass $100 cannon on the back which you bought from Autobahn).

If I had the money though, I would have bought an S2K for sure, they are RWD and with the right exhaust and extractor combo they sound really good!

d o u g l a s
Post #272

if u got the money

buy a v6 commodore then put a ls1 in it keep stock muffler x 3 lol dont tell no @#$! and there u go fast p plater cops will think its a v6 lol have a lock on ur bonnet "sorry sir my bonnet doesnt open the cable snapped " good game

C1V1C
Post #273

Yeah then they confiscate the car and u get fined. And the fact that its an LS1 sounds a bit different then a normal v6 motor.

02GZM
Post #274

It would also be a lot easier and faster to just rebadge a SS as a SV6....

tom_willie
Post #275

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 30 2009, 07:19 PM) *
Do you mean the Ford engines are better across the range, or are are you comparing specific models? Regardless i would have to disagree. My old bog stock(basically) VN V6 would beat stock BA/BF falcons at the lights. Even say VZ vs BF ive noticed that the commodore will usually win. Do the BF have a paddle shift with the semi auto?

What model ford made that Nm figure, the XR6 or what? I doubt at 24 years old its still making that power however.


That is a bog stock 1995 ef falcon gli mate... the xr6 make more with the tickford engine. First gear in a commodore is higher usually, thats the only reason they may just win off the lights bog stock vs bog stock. I dunno bout vz vs bf but I find it hard to believe. The new falcon make 391 nm I think by memory. My old ef eats vs,vt,vx for breakfast with just an xr6 diff and a exhaust.
BTW 1995 is only 14 years ago..., Top gear raced falcon and commodore basic models and the ford won both times, only thing holden won was the brakes. Yeah the ba, bf and fg have the paddle shift auto. Still gunna be sluggish off the lights being auto tho.

B Unit
Post #276

QUOTE (tom_willie @ Jul 31 2009, 04:31 PM) *
That is a bog stock 1995 ef falcon gli mate... the xr6 make more with the tickford engine.

Is that the year model that the XR6 was nearly as quick as the XR8? There was like fuck all difference in it? Excuse my lack of knowledge of Falcon/Commodore.

tom_willie
Post #277

yup, the xr was 164 kw I think and the xr 8 was 168. Then in the el they upgraded the 8 to over 170.

02GZM
Post #278

I'll have to agree that Ford do well in the 6cylinder department.

GTRwilson
Post #279

QUOTE (lil_foy @ Jul 31 2009, 06:37 AM) *
Coilovers and cheap should never be in the same sentence.
You pay for what you get!

I agree completely, but Pedders do a set that are quiet cheap and ive only heard good reviews. Its possible to get some that are just good old value for money.

QUOTE (02GZM @ Jul 31 2009, 07:14 PM) *
I'll have to agree that Ford do well in the 6cylinder department.

good 6 or bad 8? tongue.gif

02GZM
Post #280

Um both I think lol

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