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clutch-monkey
Post #211
QUOTE (michael_90 @ Jul 29 2009, 08:47 PM)  the only way to get a final answer is a 1/4 mile day with all different p plate cars so all cars are ran on the same day and its all equal  im happy to bring my somewhat modified n/a supra outyou mean a day at QR or even Mt cotton 
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the_random_hero
Post #212
Straight lines don't mean shit.... I can think of plenty of cars that might go sort of quick down a track but throw a corner in there and they'll be in the kitty litter before you know it (ie. Most Commodores) |
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skozza711
Post #213
QUOTE (the_random_hero @ Jul 29 2009, 09:21 PM) Straight lines don't mean shit.... I can think of plenty of cars that might go sort of quick down a track but throw a corner in there and they'll be in the kitty litter before you know it (ie. Most Commodores) haha yea mate wrote off his cv8 at qr trying to chase me. |
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the_random_hero
Post #215
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 09:27 PM)  Like what? Name a car that's THAT slow down the quarter that won't walk over your boat in a track situation. |
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GTRwilson
Post #216
hahaha are you serious? The time was completely random, not based on anything ive seen or seriously believe. But if you want cars that would lose to a commodore down the strip, basically any stock pulsar, civic, or even the older type integra's. |
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the_random_hero
Post #217
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 09:34 PM) hahaha are you serious? The time was completely random, not based on anything ive seen or seriously believe. But if you want cars that would lose to a commodore down the strip, basically any stock pulsar, civic, or even the older type integra's. p.s. please dont try and turn a joke into ANOTHER debate over Holden vs all imports. Oh but they are the arguments I love to have! All cars have merits, all drivers are entitled to an opinion, etc Apart from Commodore owners/drivers |
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02GZM
Post #219
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 09:34 PM) hahaha are you serious? The time was completely random, not based on anything ive seen or seriously believe. But if you want cars that would lose to a commodore down the strip, basically any stock pulsar, civic, or even the older type integra's. p.s. please dont try and turn a joke into ANOTHER debate over Holden vs all imports. I hope you mean non vtec honda's and GA16 pulsars because a B-series honda / SR pulsar will run a lot faster time than that. |
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clutch-monkey
Post #221
14/15's i thought stock honda type R's run, probably wrong though |
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02GZM
Post #223
Only pulsar I know ran in the 15's so you'll have to ask the nissan guys more about those. Stock Integra's will run mid 14's to mid 15's depending on driver and model. QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Jul 29 2009, 10:04 PM) lets be honest, drag racing is not their forte, in the same way a twisty mountain road is a commodore's kryptonite And yes, horses for courses 
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michael_90
Post #224
ddnt mean to start an arguement .. was just a suggestion with the 1/4 mile run ... im also happy to participate in a circuit day against other p plate cars |
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Rookie ROX
Post #225
QUOTE (skozza711 @ Jul 29 2009, 09:24 PM) haha yea mate wrote off his cv8 at qr trying to chase me. Ha. I remember that guy. There's a line between pushing hard and pushing silly, and at QR that's a pretty thick line.. ROCK ON R~R |
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Boredstiff
Post #226
I can tell you how fast most stock imports are, regardless of type; 180km/h. I'd say the fastest would be one with the bigger engine & better gear ratio's? |
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VTs russ
Post #228
QUOTE (skozza711 @ Jul 29 2009, 08:40 PM) a cop said to my mate the other day if u r running premium fuel in a hi out put aloytech he could do him for driving a car over kw's? that cant be right hey? manufacture's claimed power output figure, would be under perfection conditions, run on quality fuel, so holden quoted 190kw would have been made on premuim unleaded, probly 100 octane, so running premuim unleaded in an high output alloytec will never make it jump another 10kw, rendering it illegal to drive on your p's. |
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C1V1C
Post #229
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 08:37 PM) Someone said that the commodore engines were shit. I was pointing out that the alloytec/ecotec arent shit. e.g. capable of 225KW from a stock 6 commodore = an alright designed engine. So i'd say me bringing it up was completely warranted.  I guess you are right in that but think the Power/Litre Ratio. If they made a 3.5Ltr DOHC VTEC engine. I'd want to see it go. And also i can agree that in a straight line a commodore would win but not on a winding track. Depending on the model and such. Glad to see you and me have finally agreed on something =P |
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tom_willie
Post #230
QUOTE (the_random_hero @ Jul 29 2009, 10:21 PM) Straight lines don't mean shit.... I can think of plenty of cars that might go sort of quick down a track but throw a corner in there and they'll be in the kitty litter before you know it (ie. Most Commodores) Yeah but p platers aren't really talking about corners, all he wants is something that he can burn his mates in at the lights. |
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02GZM
Post #231
QUOTE (C1V1C @ Jul 30 2009, 08:12 AM) I guess you are right in that but think the Power/Litre Ratio. If they made a 3.5Ltr DOHC VTEC engine. I'd want to see it go. And also i can agree that in a straight line a commodore would win but not on a winding track. Depending on the model and such. Glad to see you and me have finally agreed on something =P Will a 3.2L do? 
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tom_willie
Post #235
yeah honda's are pretty damn good I must admit. I still reckon the inline 6, 4 litre falcon engine is the best bang for buck p plater engine, especially over a commy. The 1995 model falcon had 357 nm of torque, while a brand new sv6 commy only has 340 nm haha catch up already. |
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FU POPO
Post #236
QUOTE (skozza711 @ Jul 29 2009, 07:02 PM) haha and the cops wouldnt ask if the engine had any work like with it rumbling and loud on idle? plus it taking off wit the histall? Its a vn.... sports zorst with a bent cam and a slipping auto box or thousands spent? lol Meh like a said its hardly drivin and owner is nearly on opens wich it was intended for. |
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FU POPO
Post #237
QUOTE (C1V1C @ Jul 30 2009, 08:12 AM) I guess you are right in that but think the Power/Litre Ratio. If they made a 3.5Ltr DOHC VTEC engine. I'd want to see it go. And also i can agree that in a straight line a commodore would win but not on a winding track. Depending on the model and such. Glad to see you and me have finally agreed on something =P They did make one well isuzu or vaxual did. A 3.5ltr dohc v6 with coil pack ignition in some rodeos and fronteras. HPF got over 1100hp out of one.... |
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Glasshouse51
Post #238
hyundai getz pump out about 190kW dont they? |
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the_random_hero
Post #240
Toyota made a touch over 200kw/336nm with a 3.5L Dual VVT-i 2GR-FE, I'd love to see what they could do they gave the heads to Yamaha - 300kw should be easily possible. Sad this is I doubt they will ever do it |
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lil_foy
Post #241
QUOTE (the_random_hero @ Jul 30 2009, 05:30 PM) Toyota made a touch over 200kw/336nm with a 3.5L Dual VVT-i 2GR-FE, I'd love to see what they could do they gave the heads to Yamaha - 300kw should be easily possible. Sad this is I doubt they will ever do it  The DOHC VTEC C30A is a 3.0 L version, producing 201 kW (270 bhp) The C32B is DOHC VTEC V6 which produces 290 hp (216 kW) |
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GTRwilson
Post #242
QUOTE (tom_willie @ Jul 30 2009, 10:22 AM) I still reckon the inline 6, 4 litre falcon engine is the best bang for buck p plater engine, especially over a commy. The 1995 model falcon had 357 nm of torque, while a brand new sv6 commy only has 340 nm haha catch up already. Do you mean the Ford engines are better across the range, or are are you comparing specific models? Regardless i would have to disagree. My old bog stock(basically) VN V6 would beat stock BA/BF falcons at the lights. Even say VZ vs BF ive noticed that the commodore will usually win. Do the BF have a paddle shift with the semi auto? What model ford made that Nm figure, the XR6 or what? I doubt at 24 years old its still making that power however. |
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MYB16
Post #243
QUOTE (lil_foy @ Jul 30 2009, 05:41 PM) The DOHC VTEC C30A is a 3.0 L version, producing 201 kW (270 bhp) The C32B is DOHC VTEC V6 which produces 290 hp (216 kW) If not more. Remember that engine was built in the times of the Japanese gentlmen's agreement. Therefore 290hp in the brochure equal alot more in reality. The NSX-R hits 100km/hr in round 4.5 seconds and puts in some serious lap times, it has to make more then whats published. |
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02GZM
Post #244
QUOTE (MYB16 @ Jul 30 2009, 06:25 PM) If not more. Remember that engine was built in the times of the Japanese gentlmen's agreement. Therefore 290hp in the brochure equal alot more in reality. The NSX-R hits 100km/hr in round 4.5 seconds and puts in some serious lap times, it has to make more then whats published.  265hp at the wheels from a stock NSX. omg 9% drivetrain loss Definitely the gentlemens agreement. |
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DJKOR
Post #245
QUOTE (313GNT.Aurion @ Jul 25 2009, 06:37 PM) ............over 200kw mate not to be cocky but u probly wont find a STOCK one faster than an aurion mate. i got a 14.2 at the drags stock pretty much, so if u know your shit about cars and know what there times are down the quarter and dont think that every car with rims does a 10 sec pass like fast and furious ud know thats fukin good for what it is...not very many cars if any will do that with P plate restrictions FS if u want to buy it 14.2... The Aurion is well capable of a 14.131 @ 99.29mph. You're really serious about the selling side of things? Well good luck mate. QUOTE (Boxr @ Jul 25 2009, 06:55 PM) 14.2@98 Fark thats alright & its a heavy FWD too  lol can I ask whats "Pretty much stock?"Yeah. They certainly do go alright. Mine is more 'stock' than 313GNT's and it makes a 14.131 @ 99.29mph (time slip). Mine basically has just has the rear mufflers changed and existing restrictions on the intake removed, so no major at all. The Aurion handles quite well surprisingly. I'm sure a few people here can confirm that. |
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