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XRT-HOWSEE
Post #141
S2000 aren't that great, my dad's monaro flogged one several times on different days, and its dead stock. |
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BlindSite
Post #145
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 27 2009, 09:07 PM)  FTO's have to be one of the ugliest girl cars ive seen. Theres a whole 'crew' of them the frequent ipswich on a fri/sat night.  Some love them, some hate them, but you can't deny they put out pretty good performance for their price and they're a shitload better than the boganmobile VN and VL that everyone whores |
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GTRwilson
Post #146
QUOTE (BlindSite @ Jul 28 2009, 03:24 PM) Some love them, some hate them, but you can't deny they put out pretty good performance for their price and they're a shitload better than the boganmobile VN and VL that everyone whores The bolded part i can and certainly will deny. I actually dont see all that many people in VLs and Vns, well not as much as people harp on about. Sure there are less people in FTOs ect, but thats mainly because well, no one wants them. I cant really comment on their performance as ive never cared enough about them to look into it, but if you can by a 20 year old family sedan (a.k.a. a VN) for under $1000 and get it into the 14s, thats the real value for money id say. |
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Eltnot
Post #147
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 28 2009, 03:43 PM) The bolded part i can and certainly will deny. I actually dont see all that many people in VLs and Vns, well not as much as people harp on about. Sure there are less people in FTOs ect, but thats mainly because well, no one wants them. I cant really comment on their performance as ive never cared enough about them to look into it, but if you can by a 20 year old family sedan (a.k.a. a VN) for under $1000 and get it into the 14s, thats the real value for money id say. How much did it cost to make that VN get into the 14's but? And the reason you see less people in FTO's is because less were made and none originally sold in this country. You see less lambos then VL's and VN's but does that mean no one wants them? |
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GTRwilson
Post #150
QUOTE (Eltnot @ Jul 28 2009, 03:51 PM) How much did it cost to make that VN get into the 14's but? A grand, including the cost of buying the car. Thats what i was saying, you could buy one for as low as $500 and put another $500 into it and if your lucky could see those times. Ill admit its not going to be likely, but still very possible if you were dead set of doing it. Just checked up on the going rate for an FTO, 10K-15K  For that money you could get a VZ SV6, tune it and some 3.9 diff gears and maybe see VERY low 14s or crack a high 13. |
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autech_sfifteen
Post #151
My mate has a VN which he spent a few grand on, did shit like cams, port and polish, stroked it and he was running a a good 13 |
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GTRwilson
Post #152
QUOTE (autech_sfifteen @ Jul 28 2009, 04:06 PM) My mate has a VN which he spent a few grand on, did shit like cams, port and polish, stroked it and he was running a a good 13 Nice. Well some of those mods wouldnt be allowed for the P platers that this is in regards too, but nevertheless shows that they are good for a quick pass. that is, if you're actually being serious in a topic this time. 
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C1V1C
Post #153
QUOTE (XRT-HOWSEE @ Jul 28 2009, 10:41 AM) S2000 aren't that great, my dad's monaro flogged one several times on different days, and its dead stock. The xr6's are good cars, it depends on what you want, as there are so many all in the same league. depends on what you want and how much you want to spend. It all varies on the driver as well. But my mates S2000 beat monaro's up until around 100k/h. And his was stock as well. And yeah as 02gzm said were talking about P Plate cars..... |
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FU POPO
Post #156
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 28 2009, 04:09 PM) Nice. Well some of those mods wouldnt be allowed for the P platers that this is in regards too, but nevertheless shows that they are good for a quick pass. that is, if you're actually being serious in a topic this time. Yeah ive got a mate who is on his Ps and is VN crazy. He has a very clean but stock looking VN sedan 6cyl bit of a money bucket but hey he loves it. To look under the bonnet seems stock bar headers, alloy rad and Slightly bigger throttle body. Has a built auto with TCE 3500rpm stall and 4.11s LSD. Engine is built bottom up with forged and treated internals, insane heads,custom cams and bradley stroker (4.3Ltr) ect full house motor.... and every other supporting mod including fuel system, trans and oil cooler all hidden. Its abit like V6 vengance but stroked and built just for NA minus the intakes out the bonnet. Also has group A 330mm brakes, braided lines and DBA drilled and slotted rotors. Nolthene bushes, all new suspesion ect. Has a really up to date style interior aswell and stereo. Just plain insane for a P plater VN. This car has ran once and a low 13 on street tyres and trim including heavy stereo shit. Minus stereo, spair tyre, rear seats and slicks would be a high 12. A proper racing intake manifold and tune would assume -12.5s. Mind you the car is 'hardly driven', driver is only few monthes from opens and is built ready for a capa procharger (thats why no ITBs) once on opens and funds permit. Ive always hated VNs but after going in this thing sorta gave me a new out look and what can be achieved when real money and time is put into one.  |
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truenogtz69
Post #161
QUOTE (hypo6 @ Jul 29 2009, 01:55 PM) Fastest p plater car??? IT MINE nah jks, but she dose make 165hp with only a few mods the ecotec is the best bang for buck for the new p plater laws unless you got $30,000 for a new xr6 that you'll probalby write off anyway lol fail post ecotoec is shit lol.. b16a vtec 4ages itll b e the life out of commos and xr6s around a track |
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autech_sfifteen
Post #162
QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 28 2009, 04:09 PM) Nice. Well some of those mods wouldnt be allowed for the P platers that this is in regards too, but nevertheless shows that they are good for a quick pass. that is, if you're actually being serious in a topic this time. I don't talk shit outside of O/T dude, Get Van banned  Technically if you dig around deep enough in the vehicle safety acts and legislation, You need a mod plate for cams and all internal mods because it changes the cars emissions. but its never scrutinized. But in terms of P platers, you could work the tits of an engine as long it looks stock on the outside. |
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RIFFTOR
Post #163
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GTRwilson
Post #164
QUOTE (hypo6 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:55 PM) Fastest p plater car??? IT MINE nah jks, but she dose make 165hp with only a few mods the ecotec is the best bang for buck for the new p plater laws unless you got $30,000 for a new xr6 that you'll probalby write off anyway lol The alloytec would have to be the best P plater motor id say.(VZ onwards) Make about 190rwhp in a stock VS SV6, and only gets better in the newer model. Anyone see the new Wheels magazine? In September Holden are releasing another model i believe(or series or something) and the alloytec makes 225KW. QUOTE (truenogtz69 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:14 PM) fail post ecotoec is shit lol.. b16a vtec 4ages itll b e the life out of commos and xr6s around a track  
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VTs russ
Post #165
i've got a 5sp vn, with only extractors, 2.5" single, cai, and 4.11's (dont do it if you have to drive over 90km/h for extended periods) there great performance for the price, as quick as a lighly modded turbo 32, and has eaten every p plate car so far, but your buying an old car, if you've got more money i would definatly be going newer like a vz, alloytec's are great motors, and if you can afford a s2k that would be great, dont see many of them getting round on your p's. |
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skozza711
Post #168
QUOTE (FU POPO @ Jul 28 2009, 10:06 PM) Yeah ive got a mate who is on his Ps and is VN crazy. He has a very clean but stock looking VN sedan 6cyl bit of a money bucket but hey he loves it. To look under the bonnet seems stock bar headers, alloy rad and Slightly bigger throttle body. Has a built auto with TCE 3500rpm stall and 4.11s LSD. Engine is built bottom up with forged and treated internals, insane heads,custom cams and bradley stroker (4.3Ltr) ect full house motor.... and every other supporting mod including fuel system, trans and oil cooler all hidden. Its abit like V6 vengance but stroked and built just for NA minus the intakes out the bonnet. Also has group A 330mm brakes, braided lines and DBA drilled and slotted rotors. Nolthene bushes, all new suspesion ect. Has a really up to date style interior aswell and stereo. Just plain insane for a P plater VN. This car has ran once and a low 13 on street tyres and trim including heavy stereo shit. Minus stereo, spair tyre, rear seats and slicks would be a high 12. A proper racing intake manifold and tune would assume -12.5s. Mind you the car is 'hardly driven', driver is only few monthes from opens and is built ready for a capa procharger (thats why no ITBs) once on opens and funds permit. Ive always hated VNs but after going in this thing sorta gave me a new out look and what can be achieved when real money and time is put into one. haha and the cops wouldnt ask if the engine had any work like with it rumbling and loud on idle? plus it taking off wit the histall? |
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02GZM
Post #173
QUOTE (truenogtz69 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:14 PM) fail post ecotoec is shit lol.. b16a vtec 4ages itll b e the life out of commos and xr6s around a track Seems to me like he was implying commodores with ecotecs and xr6's Which yes, I think a corolla with a 4age or a civic with a b16 would flog around a track. So would the majority of the people that go to QR. QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 06:54 PM) Do you really believe that no commodore could possibly ever lose to a 4 cyl? No, I don't think 4bangers would always beat certain commodores. |
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