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XRT-HOWSEE
Post #141

S2000 aren't that great, my dad's monaro flogged one several times on different days, and its dead stock.

The xr6's are good cars, it depends on what you want, as there are so many all in the same league. depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.

mx6 guy
Post #142

can anyone's parents anyone afford a audi TT, the 3.2 ltr V6? same engine in the golf r32, they go awesome, but for 80 to 100k too much for me.

EK1.6LCIV
Post #143

yea you ding an audi, you will learn quick smart how much fun it is owning a euro car lol

02GZM
Post #144

QUOTE (XRT-HOWSEE @ Jul 28 2009, 10:41 AM) *
S2000 aren't that great, my dad's monaro flogged one several times on different days, and its dead stock.


Since when was a Monaro a P-plate legal car

BlindSite
Post #145

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 27 2009, 09:07 PM) *
FTO's have to be one of the ugliest girl cars ive seen. Theres a whole 'crew' of them the frequent ipswich on a fri/sat night. mamoru.gif


Some love them, some hate them, but you can't deny they put out pretty good performance for their price and they're a shitload better than the boganmobile VN and VL that everyone whores

GTRwilson
Post #146

QUOTE (BlindSite @ Jul 28 2009, 03:24 PM) *
Some love them, some hate them, but you can't deny they put out pretty good performance for their price and they're a shitload better than the boganmobile VN and VL that everyone whores

The bolded part i can and certainly will deny. I actually dont see all that many people in VLs and Vns, well not as much as people harp on about. Sure there are less people in FTOs ect, but thats mainly because well, no one wants them.

I cant really comment on their performance as ive never cared enough about them to look into it, but if you can by a 20 year old family sedan (a.k.a. a VN) for under $1000 and get it into the 14s, thats the real value for money id say.

Eltnot
Post #147

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 28 2009, 03:43 PM) *
The bolded part i can and certainly will deny. I actually dont see all that many people in VLs and Vns, well not as much as people harp on about. Sure there are less people in FTOs ect, but thats mainly because well, no one wants them.

I cant really comment on their performance as ive never cared enough about them to look into it, but if you can by a 20 year old family sedan (a.k.a. a VN) for under $1000 and get it into the 14s, thats the real value for money id say.

How much did it cost to make that VN get into the 14's but?

And the reason you see less people in FTO's is because less were made and none originally sold in this country. You see less lambos then VL's and VN's but does that mean no one wants them?

autech_sfifteen
Post #148

Plus VN's and VL's are awesome for skids. Value for money imo.

EK1.6LCIV
Post #149

VL>FTO for the pure reason that there's options in terms of engine replacements
wouldnt go as far to say VNs and VLs are value for money, but would def say the XF is lol

GTRwilson
Post #150

QUOTE (Eltnot @ Jul 28 2009, 03:51 PM) *
How much did it cost to make that VN get into the 14's but?

A grand, including the cost of buying the car. Thats what i was saying, you could buy one for as low as $500 and put another $500 into it and if your lucky could see those times. Ill admit its not going to be likely, but still very possible if you were dead set of doing it.

Just checked up on the going rate for an FTO, 10K-15K eek.gif

For that money you could get a VZ SV6, tune it and some 3.9 diff gears and maybe see VERY low 14s or crack a high 13.

autech_sfifteen
Post #151

My mate has a VN which he spent a few grand on, did shit like cams, port and polish, stroked it and he was running a a good 13

GTRwilson
Post #152

QUOTE (autech_sfifteen @ Jul 28 2009, 04:06 PM) *
My mate has a VN which he spent a few grand on, did shit like cams, port and polish, stroked it and he was running a a good 13

Nice. Well some of those mods wouldnt be allowed for the P platers that this is in regards too, but nevertheless shows that they are good for a quick pass.

that is, if you're actually being serious in a topic this time. ohmy.gif

C1V1C
Post #153

QUOTE (XRT-HOWSEE @ Jul 28 2009, 10:41 AM) *
S2000 aren't that great, my dad's monaro flogged one several times on different days, and its dead stock.

The xr6's are good cars, it depends on what you want, as there are so many all in the same league. depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.


It all varies on the driver as well. But my mates S2000 beat monaro's up until around 100k/h. And his was stock as well. And yeah as 02gzm said were talking about P Plate cars.....

RB Slider
Post #154

i thought vtecs were not allowed

02GZM
Post #155

QUOTE (RB Slider @ Jul 28 2009, 06:13 PM) *
i thought vtecs were not allowed


Single Vtec's are. But if you run a quad Vtec setup the cops might hassle you.

FU POPO
Post #156

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 28 2009, 04:09 PM) *
Nice. Well some of those mods wouldnt be allowed for the P platers that this is in regards too, but nevertheless shows that they are good for a quick pass.

that is, if you're actually being serious in a topic this time. ohmy.gif


Yeah ive got a mate who is on his Ps and is VN crazy. He has a very clean but stock looking VN sedan 6cyl bit of a money bucket but hey he loves it. To look under the bonnet seems stock bar headers, alloy rad and Slightly bigger throttle body. Has a built auto with TCE 3500rpm stall and 4.11s LSD. Engine is built bottom up with forged and treated internals, insane heads,custom cams and bradley stroker (4.3Ltr) ect full house motor.... and every other supporting mod including fuel system, trans and oil cooler all hidden. Its abit like V6 vengance but stroked and built just for NA minus the intakes out the bonnet. Also has group A 330mm brakes, braided lines and DBA drilled and slotted rotors. Nolthene bushes, all new suspesion ect. Has a really up to date style interior aswell and stereo. Just plain insane for a P plater VN.


This car has ran once and a low 13 on street tyres and trim including heavy stereo shit. Minus stereo, spair tyre, rear seats and slicks would be a high 12. A proper racing intake manifold and tune would assume -12.5s. Mind you the car is 'hardly driven', driver is only few monthes from opens and is built ready for a capa procharger (thats why no ITBs) once on opens and funds permit. Ive always hated VNs but after going in this thing sorta gave me a new out look and what can be achieved when real money and time is put into one. thumbsup.gif

02GZM
Post #157

I was kidding by the way.... Jesus, I never get to troll...

When_in_doubt_powerout
Post #158

4.0 litre v6 hilux

delliii
Post #159

QUOTE (02GZM @ Jul 28 2009, 06:15 PM) *
Single Vtec's are. But if you run a quad Vtec setup the cops might hassle you.


lol :wub:

hypo6
Post #160

Fastest p plater car??? IT MINE
nah jks, but she dose make 165hp with only a few mods

the ecotec is the best bang for buck for the new p plater laws

unless you got $30,000 for a new xr6 that you'll probalby write off
anyway lol

truenogtz69
Post #161

QUOTE (hypo6 @ Jul 29 2009, 01:55 PM) *
Fastest p plater car??? IT MINE
nah jks, but she dose make 165hp with only a few mods

the ecotec is the best bang for buck for the new p plater laws

unless you got $30,000 for a new xr6 that you'll probalby write off
anyway lol



fail post ecotoec is shit lol..

b16a vtec 4ages itll b e the life out of commos and xr6s around a track

autech_sfifteen
Post #162

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 28 2009, 04:09 PM) *
Nice. Well some of those mods wouldnt be allowed for the P platers that this is in regards too, but nevertheless shows that they are good for a quick pass.

that is, if you're actually being serious in a topic this time. ohmy.gif


I don't talk shit outside of O/T dude, Get Van banned tongue.gif


Technically if you dig around deep enough in the vehicle safety acts and legislation, You need a mod plate for cams and all internal mods because it changes the cars emissions. but its never scrutinized. But in terms of P platers, you could work the tits of an engine as long it looks stock on the outside.

RIFFTOR
Post #163

QUOTE:
"Yeah ive got a mate who is on his Ps and is VN crazy. He has a very clean but stock looking VN sedan 6cyl bit of a money bucket but hey he loves it. To look under the bonnet seems stock bar headers, alloy rad and Slightly bigger throttle body. Has a built auto with TCE 3500rpm stall and 4.11s LSD. Engine is built bottom up with forged and treated internals, insane heads,custom cams and bradley stroker (4.3Ltr) ect full house motor.... and every other supporting mod including fuel system, trans and oil cooler all hidden. Its abit like V6 vengance but stroked and built just for NA minus the intakes out the bonnet. Also has group A 330mm brakes, braided lines and DBA drilled and slotted rotors. Nolthene bushes, all new suspesion ect. Has a really up to date style interior aswell and stereo. Just plain insane for a P plater VN.


This car has ran once and a low 13 on street tyres and trim including heavy stereo shit. Minus stereo, spair tyre, rear seats and slicks would be a high 12. A proper racing intake manifold and tune would assume -12.5s. Mind you the car is 'hardly driven', driver is only few monthes from opens and is built ready for a capa procharger (thats why no ITBs) once on opens and funds permit. Ive always hated VNs but after going in this thing sorta gave me a new out look and what can be achieved when real money and time is put into one. thumbsup.gif"

So basically 10 grand later its still an automatic VN Commodore?

GTRwilson
Post #164

QUOTE (hypo6 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:55 PM) *
Fastest p plater car??? IT MINE
nah jks, but she dose make 165hp with only a few mods

the ecotec is the best bang for buck for the new p plater laws

unless you got $30,000 for a new xr6 that you'll probalby write off
anyway lol


The alloytec would have to be the best P plater motor id say.(VZ onwards) Make about 190rwhp in a stock VS SV6, and only gets better in the newer model. Anyone see the new Wheels magazine? In September Holden are releasing another model i believe(or series or something) and the alloytec makes 225KW.
QUOTE (truenogtz69 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:14 PM) *
fail post ecotoec is shit lol..

b16a vtec 4ages itll b e the life out of commos and xr6s around a track

bowrofl.gif


jerkit.gif

VTs russ
Post #165

i've got a 5sp vn, with only extractors, 2.5" single, cai, and 4.11's (dont do it if you have to drive over 90km/h for extended periods) there great performance for the price, as quick as a lighly modded turbo 32, and has eaten every p plate car so far, but your buying an old car, if you've got more money i would definatly be going newer like a vz, alloytec's are great motors, and if you can afford a s2k that would be great, dont see many of them getting round on your p's.

there is also a video on youtube of an aurion smashing a vy ute, they seam really quick, if you dont mind having a fwd.

4.0L hilux use so much fuel, my mate used to have one, and also went through 3 diffs in 60' k's so i wouldnt recommend for a p plater.

02GZM
Post #166

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 06:26 PM) *
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jerkit.gif


Lol you really thing a 1600kg boat would beat a light weight, close geared, 4 banger around a track...

I'll have to give the next track sv6 I see a big hug.

O wait....
oopsie.gif

GTRwilson
Post #167

It was more aimed at the ecotecs are shit part. They arent as good as the alloytec but they sure as shit had their place, and did it well.

Do you really believe that no commodore could possibly ever lose to a 4 cyl?

skozza711
Post #168

QUOTE (FU POPO @ Jul 28 2009, 10:06 PM) *
Yeah ive got a mate who is on his Ps and is VN crazy. He has a very clean but stock looking VN sedan 6cyl bit of a money bucket but hey he loves it. To look under the bonnet seems stock bar headers, alloy rad and Slightly bigger throttle body. Has a built auto with TCE 3500rpm stall and 4.11s LSD. Engine is built bottom up with forged and treated internals, insane heads,custom cams and bradley stroker (4.3Ltr) ect full house motor.... and every other supporting mod including fuel system, trans and oil cooler all hidden. Its abit like V6 vengance but stroked and built just for NA minus the intakes out the bonnet. Also has group A 330mm brakes, braided lines and DBA drilled and slotted rotors. Nolthene bushes, all new suspesion ect. Has a really up to date style interior aswell and stereo. Just plain insane for a P plater VN.


This car has ran once and a low 13 on street tyres and trim including heavy stereo shit. Minus stereo, spair tyre, rear seats and slicks would be a high 12. A proper racing intake manifold and tune would assume -12.5s. Mind you the car is 'hardly driven', driver is only few monthes from opens and is built ready for a capa procharger (thats why no ITBs) once on opens and funds permit. Ive always hated VNs but after going in this thing sorta gave me a new out look and what can be achieved when real money and time is put into one. thumbsup.gif



haha and the cops wouldnt ask if the engine had any work like with it rumbling and loud on idle? plus it taking off wit the histall?

02GZM
Post #169

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 06:54 PM) *
It was more aimed at the ecotecs are shit part. They arent as good as the alloytec but they sure as shit had their place, and did it well.

Do you really believe that no commodore could possibly ever lose to a 4 cyl?


Did I say that

GTRwilson
Post #170

QUOTE (02GZM @ Jul 29 2009, 07:51 PM) *
Lol you really thing a 1600kg boat would beat a light weight, close geared, 4 banger around a track...



did i say that?

02GZM
Post #171

QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 06:26 PM) *
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jerkit.gif


You clearly implied.

GTRwilson
Post #172

QUOTE (02GZM @ Jul 29 2009, 08:05 PM) *
You clearly implied.

No the guy i originally quoted was implying that every falcon/commodore would undoubtedly lose. I was merely lol'ing at that, not saying that there was absolutely no truth to it at all.

You simply mis interpreted me.

02GZM
Post #173

QUOTE (truenogtz69 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:14 PM) *
fail post ecotoec is shit lol..

b16a vtec 4ages itll b e the life out of commos and xr6s around a track


Seems to me like he was implying commodores with ecotecs and xr6's

Which yes, I think a corolla with a 4age or a civic with a b16 would flog around a track. So would the majority of the people that go to QR.


QUOTE (GTRwilson @ Jul 29 2009, 06:54 PM) *
Do you really believe that no commodore could possibly ever lose to a 4 cyl?


No, I don't think 4bangers would always beat certain commodores.

skozza711
Post #174

front wheel drives are gay end of story...

02GZM
Post #175

QUOTE (skozza711 @ Jul 29 2009, 07:13 PM) *
front wheel drives are gay end of story...


Whoah you got me with that comeback.

Hat's off to you sir...

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