More Bad Media for Drag Racing - Bad News  

March_Hare

Ohh yes, its all very innocent, im sure this will all be cleared up and an innocent man will be set free

Make no mistake, that was him in the news footage as he was arrested.

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-au&...=s1215143394258

It wasnt a small operation judging by what was siezed and just how many states it spanned. Im sorry but I find his retirement a little too much of a coincidence, especially given the fact other people in the ring would have been arrested or raided previously.

Edit: Its also not the first time the same taskforce had made substancial raids for drugs.



A whole lot more to come out of this in the following days/weeks. Especially after court appearences.

LSI80

ANDRA - Australian National Drug Runners Association!!!

silver_s13

There's few facts in this thread, lets just wait until things have been proven by court and not listen to the media.

HSV_MALOO

Police have ended a year-long operation with five arrests yesterday, after busting a major drug manufacturing network in south-east Queensland and New South Wales.

Since the start of Operation Golf Brazen, 45 people have been charged and $6.1 million worth of drugs and cash seized.

Police also impounded 11 drag racing cars and motorbikes during the raids, and discovered four drug presses, each capable of manufacturing 1,000 pills a minute.

Michael Outram from the Australian Crime Commission says highly dangerous materials were being used to make the tablets.

"The kinds of things you can find in these drugs apart from the active ingredient can be caustic soda, concrete, chalk, all sorts of substances, that are used to fulfil various functions in producing the tablet," he said.

Detective Superintendent John Pointing says police have made a "dent" in the trafficking and manufacture of illicit drugs.

"It's a significant network capable of producing a large quantity of illegal drugs and generating large amounts of cash, so we're very pleased to have come this far," he said.

"The next phase is to pursue them financially and secure convictions in the court."

summoner

You'd be suprised how accurate that is.

HSV_MALOO

Say what ya like about him but at the end of the day

he was a fantastic drag racer and could driver a car better then anyone one.

How he got to where he was who cares....He knew how to put on a show, he knew how to drive cars and bikes With all the word records he broke he needs to be congratulated for this.

summoner

this is just the tip of the iceberg

TwinCam16

Fucking LOL

55HHH

Even the pill press?

scatrd

you haven't got a clue have ya. its ALL about how you 'get there', just think about drug cheats in sport. yeah sure they can put on a hell of a show but at the end of the night they cheated. just like this guy.

lostheadcase

The man was doing a community service, because fuckwits take drugs and drugs make fuckwits more likely to arrange a swift exit from the gene-pool.

Give him a medal.

HSV_MALOO

You haven't gotta clue, your just some fuckn retard who wants to up your post count by posting useless shit in a thread you have no fukn idea about so go back to playin wow or whatever little fantasy game you play to get ya kicks in life and fuck off.

Difference with drag racing

Drugs dont improve your performance behind a car, He had major sponsorship with his cars and probably the best pit crew and mechanics behind him to build the cars thanks to his sponsors who paid there wages.

Rumours like this will never help bcos 10 people on here said this and then you go and tell another 10 people who then go and tell another 10 people and the cycle begins.

lostheadcase

Bullshit, the man would have worked hard for the money he got.

Turborush

10 dollars on QSR going down next!

ScUd'EsS

X2 i think people need to just wait till the actual facts come out!

The media hasnt reported the equipment was found at his place and at last count im sure they didnt have 11 drag cars so there must be other people involved in this....

scatrd

thanks just got another reason to get my post count up. im loving this.

ot: the guy had an expandable bank account, half the guys out there would be just as good if they could go just as fast. money is a big issue in drag racing but i guess you already knew that owning a ve maloo... stick to the darwin topics they suit you best.

lostheadcase

I heard that Kevin Rudd was funding the next stimulus package with money made from drugs and illegal asian hookers.

















rumour rumour rumour rumour rumour

silver_s13

The company i work for are his accountants, we have detectives in here at the moment. Couple of lookers too

TUF120

PICS

silver_s13

i thought about it, but they may arrest me for it

TUF120

Just scream "freedom of speech" or something and they can't do shit

HSV_MALOO

Money is a big issue in drag racing but just because you have it and are the best at the sport doesn't make you a drug dealer....Alot of drag racers start out with hard work usually through there own businesses.
How about you go back to playing wow something you actually have a clue about

March_Hare

sorry, but thats bullshit. People who profit from the misery of other people dont deserve any credit at all, regardless of how good they are, its breaking the law and involves some pretty serious drugs, not to mention the crime that probably goes with it. If anything, their achievements should be motivation for them to come clean and do it all on their own, change their ways so to speak.

No, if he's convicted, any of his past efforts are washed away, he doesnt need to be congratulated, he should be condemned for doing it with dirty money. At that level of motorsport, the big dollars can mean all the difference, it could have been a different story without all the drug money to back him.

How much money do you think it costs to run such a large team like they had? now how much sponsorship dollars do you think they actually get? There arent many people in any form of motorsport in the world that dont fund their race team with their own money. Some of you overestimate just how much money sponsors are prepared to put up for motor racing in this country, do you really think they are throwing millions of dollars at him to totally fund the entire operation? Quite simply the market just isnt big enough to warrant that sort of outlay.

You guys are totally kidding yourself when you keep saying rumours. Its not rumours, the guy was arrested and charged, thats way past the point of rumours.

Motorsport is probably one of the last remaining areas to dump large amounts of money into without leaving a paper trail. You make cash that has no trace, you buy and sell parts with the money and nobody can really know exactly where everything came from and just how much money was generated or changed hands. Its nothing new, people and workshops have been done for similar things before.

As others have said, given the expanse across other states, this is just the begining. Plenty of rumours around that something will go down in wa very soon, so just wait to see the extent of the busts and how many people are involved. You guys might not like it, but if you face up to the facts, a national motorsport team provides a good distribution network for drug runners, its no coincidence that people have been caught.

clutch-monkey

oh...lost your supplier eh?

scatrd

gee. wow? is that all you got





what he said ^^ (take note HSV_MALOO)

silver_s13

i don't think any one on this forum is in a position or has any idea to talk about his monetary situation. Just saying.

youbUTEless 33

silver_s13 is right

March_Hare

We can talk about whatever we like. Ill state quite clearly, there is no way that sponsorship dollars paid for every single part of his operation. Go ahead and call me a liar, but anyone with any experience in motorsport at any level will tell you that sponsors just dont give up that much money. Even big motorsport teams are run as a business, generating income streams developing and supplying other companies and teams with components and services. In quite a lot of cases, when you look at revenue streams, their merchandising is actually worth as much, if not more than sponsorship dollars. People in here are of the opinion that sponsorship dollars pay for everything, but quite simply thats just not the case for pretty much anyone in the world, regardless of the size of your operation or your level of motorsport. Somewhere down the track you have to generate money from elsewhere. Why do you think they sieze any and all assets when something like this goes down? I said right from the start, wait and see the outcome and how indepth it is when it all comes out, but its a fallacy that sponsors pay for everything, especially when you consider the market drag racing has in this country, its hardly reached the height of national publicity has it? they have been trying hard to get there, but at the end of a day, a sponsor is only willing to give up money based on just how much exposure you can bring their product.

In saying that, people are kidding themselves if they want to pretend its not him or his business isnt involved in any way. Anyone who still is skeptical about the man in question being brett stevens, take note the name on page 5. http://www.courts.qld.gov.au/practice/lawl...arrestcourt.pdf

Its a shitty situation for all people involved, but there is no way in hell the guy should be idolised if convicted, hell. Lets face it, what has gone down only affirms what some people (including those in drag racing) have suspected for quite some time. Again, as I said, it will all come out in the end and I think it will surprise quite a few people just how large the network was.

youbUTEless 33

oh well done, you worked out that he is appearing in court.
i think this was worked out some time ago and there was no question about it.
its just your making yourself look pretty silly talking about a close family whom you know nothing about and pretending to be the big shot in the motor racing scene.
so are you saying every large motor racing company runs off drug money?

rob_88_

So your saying after a 12 month investigation the cops are going to arrest the wrong guy? I don't care how well you know him, the police arent going to arrest the wrong person after they have spent that much time investigating. He might not be the main person involved in the drugs but he certainly has had something to do with it.

clutch-monkey

i see you've not interacted much with the police well hey if traffic police are anything to go by..

youbUTEless 33

and yes i am you are only going on what you have read in this thread. which makes your opinion invalid

rob_88_

THey might get it wrong with smaller crimes. But i dont think they would be fucking up something this big.

March_Hare

Im not pretending to be a big shot in the motor racing industry, where have I ever said anything to the fact? In fact, I actually said to wait and see when it all comes out, that way we can see just how involved it is.

However, people are kidding themselves if they think sponsorship works that way and its here where I have some experience over the years. It just doesnt work like that, no matter if you are car racing, playing football or trying to get your business of the ground. People just simply arent willing to throw huge amounts of money around without getting a large return on their investment. Because, at the end of the day, you are an investment.

Heck, you'll find big motorsport companies in australia that survive off their other business interests, selling services and products to the greater community outside of motorsport. There isnt a top level motorsport team in australia that isnt involved in the development and supply of things within their industry. Whether it be logistics and transport or right through to sales and service for equipment, they simply dont get all their money from sponsors. Or you could stick your head in the sand and pretend the sponsor picks up the cheque at the end of each and every day.

Put it in a realist situation. If you are a business, what do you think your nett profit at the end of the year would have to be in able to afford to outlay millions of dollars a year in sponsorship agreements? 50 million? 100 million? more? its far from small change. Its quite the opposite, teams work hard outside of racing to generate income to keep their business afloat, they dont rely on sponsorship dollars to pay for everything, you'd probably even find brett stevens would admit as much to the fact. The money has to come from elsewhere too, and in this case, given the scale of the situation, you cant deny that something is going on. I mean, come on, a multi million dollar outfit has basically just been foreclosed on impacting on quite a number of people I would imagine. Could you think of the damages and compensation claims that would follow it it all turns out to be a sham? its not just arresting your average petty criminal on the street who is suspected of a few b&e's, they arent going to take this lightly, knowing full well the implications of what will happen if they get it wrong.

^sims^

what the fuck is your problem moleface?

i said i know people by cars and once i was shown I realised who it was.