Tein- What You Should Know When Buying  

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Post #1 post 10th February 2007 - 10:22 PM
I have spoken to so many guys’ that have bought Tein Suspension components from forums and eBay etc and not known what they got themselves into. (2 last week alone)

First of all, most Tein Coil overs will not bolt in with the original strut tops and require new Tein tops to fit correctly. The reason they sell them with out is for guy's that already have pillow ball top mounts or the H/duty Tein rubber mounts.

Secondly, Tein Japan does not warrant any (ANY) product that is sold out or leaves Japan. This is up to the countries (Official) Distributor that gives thema 2year/40000km warranty. How do they know? Every single Tein component has a serial number which can be tracked and there are some business’s in Australia that are grinding these numbers off as not to be tracked back to there source mainly in Hong Kong and they even cut off the part number label on the box as this also has the serial number and when you receive the Tein Box it will have been all taped up again as they have removed the parts for grinding.

I bet you people will read this and check their Tein coil overs and find no numbers.

Thirdly, all Tein coil overs that are Australian Spec have their part numbers starting with QS.


I hope this will help someone out there.

This post has been edited by eur0: Feb 10 2007, 10:27 PM
20VGT
Post #2

A friend of mine recently bought some Tein items for his Laurel, and whilst his old JIC pillowball tops would not bolt on......his factory strut tops DID.

The Teins have different design top to the JIC,Cusco etc. Yes this would ensure people use Tein tops with Thier coilovers......but on S13 style coilovers the factory tops certainly DO fit.

45SET
Post #3

The warrenty thing is with everything, not just Tein. You can take your Jap spec ones to Fulcrum and get them fixed... but not under warrenty.

what cars did the people own that you talked to? i have Tein coilovers in my DC5r, and they fit perfectly. I did the obvious thing and took the old coil and shock out, and replaced it with the coilover, i even used all the nuts and bolts from the stock suspension... took about 20min to put all 4 in.

sick_sr20de
Post #4

QUOTE(20VGT @ Feb 11 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]1280755384[/snapback]

A friend of mine recently bought some Tein items for his Laurel, and whilst his old JIC pillowball tops would not bolt on......his factory strut tops DID.

The Teins have different design top to the JIC,Cusco etc. Yes this would ensure people use Tein tops with Thier coilovers......but on S13 style coilovers the factory tops certainly DO fit.



your a liar!!! Atleast i hope you are. I just bought a set of cusco camber tops to put on my teins?? Havent got them yet but they are on their way

eur0
Post #5

QUOTE(sick_sr20de @ Feb 11 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]1280756194[/snapback]

your a liar!!! Atleast i hope you are. I just bought a set of cusco camber tops to put on my teins?? Havent got them yet but they are on their way


You can normally adapt pillow ball camber tops fairly easy useing sleeves and spacers between the top spring plate. Just becareful that the movement of the pillowball isn't restricted to cause lock up and that the distance between the top mounting face and the top of the spring seat is the same or less as this will raise the vehicle if it is more.

The other problem with the DC5 is that if you try to go full neg camber with some strut tops you run out of toe adjustment and will end up with too much toe out as the rack ends bottom out in the tie rod ends as the rack ends will need to modified. But this is for race use as you wouldn't drive around the streets with 3 degrees neg on the front wheels!

Cheers

sick_sr20de
Post #6

id drive aroudn with -2 degress camber though tongue.gif

Rookie ROX
Post #7

As mentioned above the warranty thing isn't anything special. It happens on everything, be it a car part, electronic gizmo or entertainment system. They're what's referred to as 'grey imports', the warranty will only be valid in the original country the product was sourced from - more common on Ebay than anything else. Everyone has a register of product serial numbers when the product arrives, so if it's not on there, say goodbye to local warranty.

Good advice that people need to know more about though thumbsup.gif

ROCK ON
R~R

sick_sr20de
Post #8

can anyone clarify the cusco camber tops on tiens and what u need to do? Im a fitter and turner so i might be able to machine some small joints on lathe... but is it necassary. Dont wanna pull them out to put on and have to put them back in the way they came out?

Belgarion
Post #9

old news, been buying parts from japan for years with this knowledge regarding waranty/factory support.

regarding the serial numbers ect, you get what you pay for, if your gonna try to be cheap, expect to get it in the ass nice and nasty.

just cause its a bargain doesnt always mean its a good deal

Koguchi Power
Post #10

Hey Guys,

I am pretty sure that only the Super Street version of the Tein range dont come with tops, I know for a fact the the S13,14 and 15 Tops are reusable and fit fine, Also the Brands dont matter... I had a Cusco Camber kit on the top of my Tokico Susension... I then changed to Tanabe Sustec Pro and sold my friend the S13 camber kit which fit on his S15 Tein HA's coilover kit and sold the Tokico Coilover kit to my other friends 180SX which was fit with the original tops... My Mechanic also has just fitted a set of after market cusco Pillow joint/camber tops to a set of Tein HA's on a Version 5 STi reciently

All the Coilover kits that I have sold over the past few years all have had the serial numbers and all original boxes... But that may be because I get it Direct from Tein Japan biggrin.gif

I hope that clears up some things for you people with Questions out there thumbsup.gif

D7

fatbmw
Post #11

i agree with Koguchi Power, u others don't know what ur talking about

neil_se
Post #12

Its pretty obvious when you look through the thread starter's history that he's a Tein seller and just wants people to stop saving money by buying direct from Japan.

45SET
Post #13

QUOTE(eur0 @ Feb 11 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]1280756228[/snapback]

The other problem with the DC5 is that if you try to go full neg camber with some strut tops you run out of toe adjustment and will end up with too much toe out as the rack ends bottom out in the tie rod ends as the rack ends will need to modified. But this is for race use as you wouldn't drive around the streets with 3 degrees neg on the front wheels!

Cheers


i just bought a WHITELINE camber kit to put the rear camber back to 0'.

not sure what person would run around with just coilovers and put -3' front camberon a DC5r .... my car runs with -1' to -1.5' at the front... i think.

mz20_drifter
Post #14

new from ns.com
your a legend i can copy info too

Koguchi Power
Post #15

Hmmm

HotMirage
Post #16

.........

S13/R32
Post #17

Koguchi Power u've got your wires crossed he was refering to euro

and i don't why you flamed mz20_drifter...

TuffVC
Post #18

[quote name='Koguchi Power' post='1280761927' date='Feb 13 2007, 02:48 PM']


I am pretty sure that only the Super Street version of the Tein range dont come with tops.

Super Streets available from the authorised Australian distributor,have mounts in most cases,certainly S13,14 and 15 do...Tein pillowball fronts and a solid alloy Tein rear mount....

All the Coilover kits that I have sold over the past few years all have had the serial numbers and all original boxes... But that may be because I get it Direct from Tein Japan biggrin.gif

Be interested to find out a little more about you and your importing business biggrin.gif

I hope that clears up some things for you people with Questions out there thumbsup.gif

Some of us are left scratching our heads at some of the information passed around in this thread

spooks_skyline
Post #19

i got no dramas with my aussie spec teins

they have warranty and fitted propperly

180GO
Post #20

QUOTE(eur0 @ Feb 10 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]1280754562[/snapback]

I bet you people will read this and check their Tein coil overs and find no numbers.



such a bold statement

my lame jokes crack me up laugh.gif

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