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Hello, yes it's me again, I am obsessed with my first car.. hahah I just can't stop changing stuff of the car. Anyway, I want to change my filter to a pod filter. The problem I ran to is the fact that the original filter box has some kind of electronics before the box. I talked to some people and they told me that if the filter is broken or changed, the electronics will be confused and the car won't start. I've included a picture of the thing so you can see what I mean. ![]() Do any of you guys have any experience on this? |
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Cheddle
Post #2
you know, you probbily wont see any gain at all if you replace that system with a poddy... you might even loose some power... |
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raaqi
Post #3
Your best bet if you want it breathing better is to get a proper Cold Air Intake (CAI). 3" piping running from your throttle body to somewhere outside of the engine bay. You will then get more airflow and colder air which will be alot better than what you have. |
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TTV8
Post #4
the ..electronic thing is called an Air Flow Meter. |
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Eclipse_Sound
Post #5
is there a panel filter in the stock airbox or a pod? you could look at keeping the same box etc, and just replacing the filter itself. |
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UNrEalEscalades
Post #6
If you really wanna do it then that square thing behind the box is your afm, unbolt it from the box and bolt the pod straight to that. but as said above you may not get any gains at all and if you do it i suggest mounting it towards the front of the engine bay. then there is the legality issues. Also u need to fabricate some sort of thermo box to partition the engine bay so it doesn't take in hot air etc. |
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Rookie ROX
Post #7
QUOTE(UNrEalEscalades @ Aug 19 2006, 07:53 PM) [snapback]1280168206[/snapback] then there is the legality issues. u need to fabricate some sort of thermo box to partition the engine bay so it doesn't take in hot air etc. The only legality issues that will arise is that the pod filter must be properly secured. That is, a zip tie will not do it. It needs to be secured with clamps, and if it's mounted on a pipe, that has to have a metal to metal mount. Look, do it the easy and non rice way. Purchase a highflow K&N panel filter and replace your stock one. Apart from not having to worry about chopping & cutting, heatshields and 'legalities', you'll be doing something better. If you want, you could also run some extra ducting from down near the front bar and feed that into the box for some extra cold air. ROCK ON R~R |
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Liney Sarge
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QUOTE(mds @ Aug 20 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]1280169144[/snapback] Thanks for all the help, I think I am just gonna stick to my current one and replace the filter with some K&N panel filter as Rookie ROX said. Thanks for all the help, I think I'll just change the exhaust of the car first. Good move. Go for the K&N Panel Filter. I had one in my old VN 5 Speed, it breathed beautifully. As stated by most others here, Keep the Air cool and you can't go wrong. The CAI is another good move. |
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Rookie ROX
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QUOTE(UNrEalEscalades @ Aug 22 2006, 01:29 AM) [snapback]1280174300[/snapback] Rookie Rox that was 2 seperate sentences. Well look at that, indeed it is. Use you correct punctuation! Capital letter for the start of the first word at the beginning of a sentence! ![]() ![]() Anyway - panel filter ftw - easiest option, don't have to worry about the other crap, and you won't be a ricer like 80% of the other Lancers out there. ROCK ON R~R |
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mds
Post #12
Yeah, i am not gonna be a ricer... I want my lancer to be done up, but nothing like an evo. hahah. I didn't think a pod would be a rice mod. I thought it'd give a much better performance. My brother did it with his FTO GPX and he said there was heaps of difference. |
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Rookie ROX
Post #13
QUOTE(mds @ Aug 22 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]1280176339[/snapback] Yeah, i am not gonna be a ricer... I want my lancer to be done up, but nothing like an evo. hahah. I didn't think a pod would be a rice mod. I thought it'd give a much better performance. My brother did it with his FTO GPX and he said there was heaps of difference. To start with - you'll never get a 'heap of difference' from a pod filter. There are some small gains to be had if it's done properly, and that usually requires reworking the intake system by removing the stock one completely and rebuilding with larger diameter tubing, pod filter and a system in place to suck up some cold air. You've then got to construct a heat shield to protect the pod from the hot air, and finally retune to cater for this extra air. The rice method, and the common method, is to simply take out the factory air box, and shove a pod filter on the end. That does jackall, and can result in worse performance if there is nothing to protect it from the engine bay heat. You'll simply get a cool sucking noise. ROCK ON R~R |
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Liney Sarge
Post #14
Me again. After all this discussion and common belief / knowledge about CAI / cold air=good air, I have just finished reading an article in Hot 4s Issue 142, page 117 (New issue of hot 4s). To cut right to the point and filter most of the smaller things out, the crew recorded power gains (On A Mazda MX-5 NB Model, Nil Mods and 100 thuosand on the clock). |
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