Converting Stock Filter To A Pod Filter... - yes, me again!  

mds
  • mds
  • New User
  • Member No.: 28,852
  • Joined: 25-July 05
  • Posts: 42
  • From: Australia
Post #1 post 18th August 2006 - 11:15 PM
Hello, yes it's me again, I am obsessed with my first car.. hahah I just can't stop changing stuff of the car.

Anyway, I want to change my filter to a pod filter. The problem I ran to is the fact that the original filter box has some kind of electronics before the box. I talked to some people and they told me that if the filter is broken or changed, the electronics will be confused and the car won't start. I've included a picture of the thing so you can see what I mean.

IPB Image

Do any of you guys have any experience on this?
Cheddle
Post #2

you know, you probbily wont see any gain at all if you replace that system with a poddy... you might even loose some power...

im not sure what engine that is but it looks small... small engines dont need much air at all, and cool air give more power than hot air

your air box has a cold air duct witch will duct cool power giving air into the motor... a poddy simply sits in the hot engine bay and sucks hot air, they are good if the current item is restricting air flow and causing the engine to have to struggle to get air, unless you can place it in a cold place then its really not worth it in my opinion

raaqi
Post #3

Your best bet if you want it breathing better is to get a proper Cold Air Intake (CAI). 3" piping running from your throttle body to somewhere outside of the engine bay. You will then get more airflow and colder air which will be alot better than what you have.

My car had a duct like yours, I took the resonator & airbox off and put on a POD, noticed a difference. You'll never know unless you do it, but don't expect miracles.

TTV8
Post #4

the ..electronic thing is called an Air Flow Meter.
it measures the amount of air your enigine is sucking in and
mixes the right amount off fuel with it.
just take out the air box after the air flow meter and stick on a pod.
but ya mght need to buy an addaptor to connect it to the pod.
get it from auto barn or something, tell them what car it is and they can
supply the right addaptor.

but CHEDDLE is right, the pod isnt sheilded from engine heat properly.
so the car will most likely loose 2-3kw.
even those heat sheilds that ya can get for pods are useless.

Eclipse_Sound
Post #5

is there a panel filter in the stock airbox or a pod? you could look at keeping the same box etc, and just replacing the filter itself.

UNrEalEscalades
Post #6

If you really wanna do it then that square thing behind the box is your afm, unbolt it from the box and bolt the pod straight to that. but as said above you may not get any gains at all and if you do it i suggest mounting it towards the front of the engine bay. then there is the legality issues. Also u need to fabricate some sort of thermo box to partition the engine bay so it doesn't take in hot air etc.

Rookie ROX
Post #7

QUOTE(UNrEalEscalades @ Aug 19 2006, 07:53 PM) [snapback]1280168206[/snapback]

then there is the legality issues. u need to fabricate some sort of thermo box to partition the engine bay so it doesn't take in hot air etc.


The only legality issues that will arise is that the pod filter must be properly secured. That is, a zip tie will not do it. It needs to be secured with clamps, and if it's mounted on a pipe, that has to have a metal to metal mount.

Look, do it the easy and non rice way. Purchase a highflow K&N panel filter and replace your stock one. Apart from not having to worry about chopping & cutting, heatshields and 'legalities', you'll be doing something better. If you want, you could also run some extra ducting from down near the front bar and feed that into the box for some extra cold air.

ROCK ON
R~R

mds
Post #8

Thanks for all the help, I think I am just gonna stick to my current one and replace the filter with some K&N panel filter as Rookie ROX said. Thanks for all the help, I think I'll just change the exhaust of the car first.

Liney Sarge
Post #9

QUOTE(mds @ Aug 20 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]1280169144[/snapback]

Thanks for all the help, I think I am just gonna stick to my current one and replace the filter with some K&N panel filter as Rookie ROX said. Thanks for all the help, I think I'll just change the exhaust of the car first.


Good move. Go for the K&N Panel Filter. I had one in my old VN 5 Speed, it breathed beautifully. As stated by most others here, Keep the Air cool and you can't go wrong. The CAI is another good move.

UNrEalEscalades
Post #10

Rookie Rox that was 2 seperate sentences.

Rookie ROX
Post #11

QUOTE(UNrEalEscalades @ Aug 22 2006, 01:29 AM) [snapback]1280174300[/snapback]

Rookie Rox that was 2 seperate sentences.


Well look at that, indeed it is. Use you correct punctuation! Capital letter for the start of the first word at the beginning of a sentence! tongue.gif laugh.gif

Anyway - panel filter ftw - easiest option, don't have to worry about the other crap, and you won't be a ricer like 80% of the other Lancers out there.

ROCK ON
R~R

mds
Post #12

Yeah, i am not gonna be a ricer... I want my lancer to be done up, but nothing like an evo. hahah. I didn't think a pod would be a rice mod. I thought it'd give a much better performance. My brother did it with his FTO GPX and he said there was heaps of difference.

Thanks.


LOL at people who puts on an evo bodykit on their cc lancers (I saw another one of these today)

Rookie ROX
Post #13

QUOTE(mds @ Aug 22 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]1280176339[/snapback]

Yeah, i am not gonna be a ricer... I want my lancer to be done up, but nothing like an evo. hahah. I didn't think a pod would be a rice mod. I thought it'd give a much better performance. My brother did it with his FTO GPX and he said there was heaps of difference.


To start with - you'll never get a 'heap of difference' from a pod filter.

There are some small gains to be had if it's done properly, and that usually requires reworking the intake system by removing the stock one completely and rebuilding with larger diameter tubing, pod filter and a system in place to suck up some cold air. You've then got to construct a heat shield to protect the pod from the hot air, and finally retune to cater for this extra air.

The rice method, and the common method, is to simply take out the factory air box, and shove a pod filter on the end. That does jackall, and can result in worse performance if there is nothing to protect it from the engine bay heat. You'll simply get a cool sucking noise.

ROCK ON
R~R

Liney Sarge
Post #14

Me again. After all this discussion and common belief / knowledge about CAI / cold air=good air, I have just finished reading an article in Hot 4s Issue 142, page 117 (New issue of hot 4s). To cut right to the point and filter most of the smaller things out, the crew recorded power gains (On A Mazda MX-5 NB Model, Nil Mods and 100 thuosand on the clock).

The air box and related ducting / plumbing was eventually removed from the car and Unifilter pod filter fitted (close to ex manifold too). it was determined that the greatest gain was in removing the twists and turns that the air gets put through to get to the inlet.

The meeasured increases were from standard arrangement was 76.5kW up to a surprising 84.4kW

Keep in mind that the air temp sensor / Air flow meter will have to be carefully relocated to keep the car's brain happy doing the sums to keep the car running right.

I hope this sheds a little more light on the subject for you, and any one else who is interested. Personally, my "Toy" is still running a carbie, but I my look further into this when I start playing with my wife's trolley.

  • Member Login

    If you have a BoostCruising account enter your user name and password into the yellow box.

    Alternatively, you can quickly login with Facebook.

    If you don't have an account create one below.

    Create Account
  • Login with Facebook

    Login using your Facebook account!

2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
Loading...
x