HP Plod
Post #38
So the problem with enforcing existing laws is? The essence of the new laws are to stop the movement and association of outlaw bike gangs They have for a long time used the banner of their gangs to instill fear threaten and intimidate into the criminal underworld etc By outlawing (no pun intended) the use of their banners it somewhat thwarts their manipulative powers They still will be dealt with for criminal matters but to be a bikie and commit crimes now there is a deterrent. Don't you want us to deter crime. Isn't y role to prevent crime. We are doing this And those who have nothing to do with these entities have nothing to fear Not once in my region have I seen innocent bike riders stopped and harassed this aspect is being blown sky high. |
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TurbostyleR
Post #39
The essence of the new laws are to stop the movement and association of outlaw bike gangs They have for a long time used the banner of their gangs to instill fear threaten and intimidate into the criminal underworld etc By outlawing (no pun intended) the use of their banners it somewhat thwarts their manipulative powers They still will be dealt with for criminal matters but to be a bikie and commit crimes now there is a deterrent. Don't you want us to deter crime. Isn't y role to prevent crime. We are doing this And those who have nothing to do with these entities have nothing to fear Not once in my region have I seen innocent bike riders stopped and harassed this aspect is being blown sky high. I have never in my life been intimidated by bikies, ever. They have never been a problem for me or ANYONE I know. Now that the government has outlawed their logos, they are going to be harder to identify and are going to be even harder to catch. These laws have successfully pushed criminals to look like ordinary folks, (as much as they can with tatts, but they are so socially acceptable now you don't know what's what). This in turn makes everyone a suspect as opposed to rough looking bikies. I personally feel more of a threat from police than I do from bikies. No joke. I'm afraid to take my car out (my most valuable asset) and have it taken from me from an overzealous power tripping cop for a stupid defect, than a "bikie" who wants to steal my car. It is my opinion and feeling that these laws are nothing more than underhanded and rough neck tactics to keep the plebs in line. I have started seeing a movement of young professional men with experience in their field leave this country due to the nanny state laws that have been passed and to chase some dollars abroad, and I have personally started looking to follow suit. Honestly, fcuk being in a country when I donate a grossly stupid amount of tax to it and I get nothing in return for it except being treated like a criminal because I'm a single male who likes to drive a modified car. |
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The Governor
Post #40
In regards to Newman making bikies in prison wear pink. |
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jbear
Post #41
Now that the government has outlawed their logos, they are going to be harder to identify and are going to be even harder to catch. These laws have successfully pushed criminals to look like ordinary folks, (as much as they can with tatts, but they are so socially acceptable now you don't know what's what). This in turn makes everyone a suspect as opposed to rough looking bikies. Maybe thats the plan, HP can you answer this - Every encounter with a person of the public, and every time you take their details and write it in your note pad, is it logged in the system? Another quick question, say if we are walking in the street and are randomly stop, do we have to give our details as we have done anything wrong? |
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clutch-monkey
Post #42
It is my opinion and feeling that these laws are nothing more than underhanded and rough neck tactics to keep the plebs in line. this the list of 'outlaw' bikie gangs is a joke.. one of them doesn't exist (LOL), and for the others no explanation or evidence is given as to why they are deemed criminal.. if only the police would do their job and catch criminals being criminals.. |
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.Tim.
Post #43
Normal motorcyclists arent being targetted hey? |
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s13viper
Post #44
I've met plenty of bikies from the various "gangs" or "clubs" and have never ever had a problem. The vast majority are just normal blokes. Now away from the public there might be illegal activities going on, and for that i have no problems in policing it. But these new laws regarding what can and cannot be done in public are just bullshit. |
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toomanytoys
Post #45
I"m actually fairly surprised to see this kind of behavior from umm affiliated members. In my experience they don"t tend to like publicity. As i previously stated in my town they were the clean up people. Bad people left and the town was nice. Not saying the behaviour was entirely legal but 100% moral. Members who created public nusance were usually de patched and also left town. |
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TurbostyleR
Post #46
Hey HP Plod is this one of your Buddies? |
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that_rodeo_guy
Post #48
lol being investigated for swearing? come on This. Pretty obvious the cyclist was a wanker anyways. |
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vk134
Post #49
That is the exact bullshit that brings about a nanny state, If I had tried that sort of shit on when I grew up, FN Bang slap over the head, you just knew it, there was a respect for all officers of the law, they were the ones who had to deal with all the toerags and shitboxes of society so you didn't have to. |
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.Tim.
Post #52
That is the exact bullshit that brings about a nanny state, If I had tried that sort of shit on when I grew up, FN Bang slap over the head, you just knew it, there was a respect for all officers of the law, they were the ones who had to deal with all the toerags and shitboxes of society so you didn't have to.... That's a fair argument, but that was also from a time when the public opinion of the Police were that they existed as a public service, and that they were there to help you and weren't out to get you for every slightest indiscretion. Nowadays, with the increased focus upon revenue generation given from the pencil pushers above them, a lot (myself included) just see them as glorified tax collectors now. Personally, I have very little respect for the uniform. I'll obviously treat the person wearing it with individual respect... but as to the force in whole, it's unfortunately become nothing more than a political play-toy and the guys in uniform are the puppets. A fish always stinks from the head down. |
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