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27th February 2009 - 06:37 PM
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ok before u say use the search buttom u twat u did i have the proof (at end of post) ive been looking for a DEEP DISH , LIGHT WEIGHT , PEDIGREE wheels for my 180sx its going 2 be a big investment so i need them 2 be perfect, i need maximum power(lack of weight) and handling as much as possible im not going 2 be a knob and get 20s so they will be 'fully sick tuckin' n shit becuase thats just fail my question is im intending 2 get a nice dish and still keep it light weight what is the PERFECT SIZE i dont want 2 big and change rolling diameter and get arse raped by the popo and i dont want them ridiculously small i hope ive made it simple and easy for u 2 answer me -------------------- just wondering can u possibly hit vtec in reverse??
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blacky83
Post #6
Smaller rim will weigh less, but then you need bigger tyres so add weight there. I wouldn't really know where the optimum point is though. |
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Streeter
Post #7
what are you going to do with the car? is it just for the street? |
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antonio
Post #9
How much money do you have? Do you want guard work? What do you want to use the car for? |
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Innocent_Commuter
Post #10
anything in 19*10" or wider and no greater than a +5 offset should be perfect. Should be a big enough investment for ya.. |
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luxxy101
Post #13
QUOTE but how small are you willing to go ? 16" -17 " ? how much are you willing to spend ? smallest would be 17, largest 18 im willing 2 spend about 5-6 grand QUOTE what are you going to do with the car? is it just for the street? the car will be both for street and track , i wont be doing drastic mods like rollcages, interior stripping etc tho QUOTE How much money do you have? Do you want guard work? What do you want to use the car for? atm i have about 5 grand i dont really want 2 do guard work as the paintwork is brand new i want 2 use the car for both street and track (not drifting) also i have become quite fond of these i know a little bit of guard work is done and camber aswell but i could live without the flared guards |
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Innocent_Commuter
Post #14
QUOTE(random_ben7 @ Feb 28 2009, 10:14 AM) [snapback]1283655150[/snapback] Not 19". Well thats the current trend in japan my friend. |
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antonio
Post #15
QUOTE(luxxy101 @ Feb 28 2009, 04:27 PM) [snapback]1283656168[/snapback] also i have become quite fond of these i know a little bit of guard work is done and camber aswell but i could live without the flared guards Those are bolt on guards, 25mm by Origin afaik in GTR Style. imo, youve got a few diff types to choose from. 18x9.5 +5 is a great fit and a pretty popular size, then just look around and play around with the offset vs width, but since you have that much money to spend get a perfect rim to suit your application and you wont need cheapy spacers. 18x9.5 +9, Could do with a spacer in the rear and then heaps more lowering Also PM Streeter on this forum, he's in Japan and get the BEST deals when it comes to buying rims, Especially for the rare types |
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antonio
Post #19
QUOTE(luxxy101 @ Feb 28 2009, 05:44 PM) [snapback]1283656456[/snapback] the stance on the sil with the camber will be perfect for what im wanting except im not that sure about the wear on the inside of the tyres how many ks normal driving per set ? you'd still get alot of use out of them depending on how you drive you would only loose a few thousand km off use, but then if you do a track day youd loose ALOT more use out of them anyway, as i said with a 10mm spacer you would be able to reduce the camber but then you would need to flare the guards to accomidate. It really is a push and shove battle, Virgin Guards = mass camber, Flared Guards = Less Camber. |
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45SET
Post #20
Question. |
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luxxy101
Post #21
QUOTE Question. What kinda suspension do you currently have in your car? Because if you don't have adjustable (Height, camber etc) it'll make it a little harder to fit some of the rims (IE, low offset/wide rims that need a far bit of camber. As for tyre wear. If you don't do burnouts/drifting, and get them rotated ever couple thousand K's and you'll be sweet. Atm i only have jic coilovers |
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45SET
Post #22
are they camber adjustable at the front and rear? Or would you have to get some adjustable rear camber arms. |
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TRY TOO
Post #23
On my 180 i have front 18x9 +35 (with a 20mm bolton spacer) and 235/40s |
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luxxy101
Post #25
Sorry, I don't really know much about suspension on the S13. But if you are looking into getting some rims like the above, you'll need a fair bit of adjustable so they fit perfect. QUOTE are they camber adjustable at the front and rear? yes they are camber adjustable btw this is my car as its green i dont really know what colour i should go for chrome is a safe bet and they look awesome with some dish whats a safe offset , neg camber that wont pump out the tyres as much without flaring ohh btw im getting new tailights |
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Streeter
Post #26
QUOTE(luxxy101 @ Feb 28 2009, 04:27 PM) [snapback]1283656168[/snapback] smallest would be 17, largest 18 im willing 2 spend about 5-6 grand the car will be both for street and track , i wont be doing drastic mods like rollcages, interior stripping etc tho atm i have about 5 grand i dont really want 2 do guard work as the paintwork is brand new i want 2 use the car for both street and track (not drifting) also i have become quite fond of these i know a little bit of guard work is done and camber aswell but i could live without the flared guards yeah the SSR proffessors look nice, I prefer the meisters but they both look pretty similar. Both arent super light but arent too bad for a multipiece wheel. If its a street car you arent going to notice a huge difference to a set of te37s anyway so you should go with what you think looks good. getting low tolerance fitment is trouble with the cops and usually needs a little guard work to get it nice and close with out fouling. I would recommend 18 x 10 +20 rear and 17 x 9.5 +12 on the front. These sizes will fit with minimal guard work (should be able to use a guard roller with out having to redo the paint) If you run stretched tyres. fitting `recommended` tyre sizes to these rims will cause hassles with clearance. If you dont have rear upper arms get some. |
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luxxy101
Post #27
jesse do u have a site where i can look at some wheels/ tyres is there much of a dif that u can c with the different rim sizes compared for the rear 2 the front and how much neg camber would be reccomended for the front ? |
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Streeter
Post #28
QUOTE(luxxy101 @ Feb 28 2009, 06:58 PM) [snapback]1283656791[/snapback] jesse do u have a site where i can look at some wheels/ tyres is there much of a dif that u can c with the different rim sizes compared for the rear 2 the front and how much neg camber would be reccomended for the front ? i prefer the ssr professors with dish how much would 18 x 10 +20 rear and 17 x 9.5 +12 and stretched tyres cost all up? I dont have a site for rims. I can supply what ever is in japan (which is a fairly large range) there are a few forums with fitment threads that might be worth looking at? eg this one... http://www.nissansilvia.com.au/forums/inde...t=0&start=0 camber will depend on ride height, tyres used and how much clearance you have. probably about -2~3 degrees on the front and about -1.5~2.5 on the back. for a street car I would run as little camber as possible as tyres do wear uneven if you run too much camber. Its not a huge problem but if it can be easily avoided why not. On my s13 (which is a no compromise track car) I run about -4 degrees on the front and around -2 on the back. If you dont care about tyre wear there is advantages to running more camber. main problem with parts from japan is shipping costs. So tyres would be best sourced locally. Used rims help lower the cost alot but with multipiece rims there are so many different sizes available its very rare you get exactly what you want pop up for sale second hand. rough costs for new 18 x 10 and 17 x 9.5 SSR proffessors landed in Aus on a rate of 62.3 yen would be ~$3750 |
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FromDeeEast
Post #29
QUOTE(antonio @ Feb 28 2009, 05:13 PM) [snapback]1283656583[/snapback] you'd still get alot of use out of them depending on how you drive you would only loose a few thousand km off use, but then if you do a track day youd loose ALOT more use out of them anyway, as i said with a 10mm spacer you would be able to reduce the camber but then you would need to flare the guards to accomidate. It really is a push and shove battle, Virgin Guards = mass camber, Flared Guards = Less Camber. that is the worst peice of advice i have ever heard. How is making the wheels stick out more going to fix up the camber??? i'd suggest getting some like 17x10 +30, might run about 1 -2 degrees camber (which is perfectly fine and wont wear out ur tyres too much. To fix camber, u need rear camber and toe arms. Please dont listen to what some clueless people are saying.. QUOTE(antonio @ Feb 28 2009, 04:37 PM) [snapback]1283656431[/snapback] Those are bolt on guards, 25mm by Origin afaik in GTR Style. imo, youve got a few diff types to choose from. 18x9.5 +5 is a great fit and a pretty popular size, then just look around and play around with the offset vs width, but since you have that much money to spend get a perfect rim to suit your application and you wont need cheapy spacers. 18x9.5 +9, Could do with a spacer in the rear and then heaps more lowering Also PM Streeter on this forum, he's in Japan and get the BEST deals when it comes to buying rims, Especially for the rare types i am willing to pay u to fit 18x9.5 +5 on a standard 180sx guard, with just a roll and no more then 3 degree camber. Cant be done mate, pls dont give people misleading advice when there putting big money in.. |
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antonio
Post #31
QUOTE(FromDeeEast @ Feb 28 2009, 11:51 PM) [snapback]1283657866[/snapback] that is the worst peice of advice i have ever heard. How is making the wheels stick out more going to fix up the camber??? i'd suggest getting some like 17x10 +30, might run about 1 -2 degrees camber (which is perfectly fine and wont wear out ur tyres too much. To fix camber, u need rear camber and toe arms. Please dont listen to what some clueless people are saying.. i am willing to pay u to fit 18x9.5 +5 on a standard 180sx guard, with just a roll and no more then 3 degree camber. Cant be done mate, pls dont give people misleading advice when there putting big money in.. With a flare you wont need as much negative camber, without the worry of hitting the guard. Also 18x9.5 +5 is an easy fit with a roll sometimes a very slight pull makes it a touch easier, then with the right tyre 215/40 its all good 18x9 +10 Virgin Guards, just a roll. So dont say it 'cant be done' until you've done it, 17x10 +30 LOLOLOL seriously go buy a Lancer. |
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FromDeeEast
Post #32
^lol... i cant believe ur serious, u posted a picture with about 4-5 degree of camber with 18 x 9 +10, u want him to go to 18x 9.5 +5.... thats a whole 11mm more out, i cant see how u would be able to fit a rim that stick 11mm out more, and dail out the camber to 1-2 without a flare. |
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antonio
Post #33
Im running 18x10 +12 on my S14 FromDeeEast, And i want to put a spacer to get it even lower, With a tyre change aswell to 225s. |
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FromDeeEast
Post #34
keep in mind s14 guards r bigger then 180's, also the spacers r for u clear coilovers haha |
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GTRVspec95
Post #35
Deep dish and light ... |
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