Best P Plate Car?  

E.Honda

no not all of them! the do make a gts!

matty95

haha my mistake when i said r32 i meant golf r32 not skyline

32 MKV

No they are a 3.2 ltr VR6 N/A.
I get asked often if it's supercharged/Turbo... Nope... Just sweet N/A power :-)

truffles

What? The r32 golf uses 3.2L 6 cylinder...


Edit: Beaten by about 2 seconds.

iamhappy46

Your thinking GTi, the R32 Golf is a AWD 3.2L V6 with 250+Hp

matty95

oh cool, i just assumed that because the gti was turbo the faster r32 would be too

32 MKV

This is the VR6 in a R32.

DAL32

Nah they just put a man sized engine in...

Hoybo

Wtf do you want from your car?

Straight line, corners, drift, cruiser, other?

I'd recommend a VN for all those options.

wbtonner

I'd have liked a 2 door Lj torana, worked 202, 200+ at the rears. Low 14's high 13's set up right.
Pity they're going up in price way too much.


This is the VR6 in 'my' R32 is what you should have said

KammdUP

i heard somthign about vic roads bringing in a 200kw per tonne rule to stop people rocking out in 800kg cars with 150+kw, but i must have bin mistaken, as for best being a personal choice, i was refering to it in technical specifications, not personal opinion, the reason being the freelander is slow, cheaply upholstered and just generally a tacky car (1999 model)

TheGeniusMoose

As far as i was aware, its 125kw per tonne down south?

project toneski

best p plate car is a manuel commo, check my topics if you want one

scozzy_vk

99 magna advance 5 speed man 168 k/w sports suspention from stock handles like crazy they do up real nicely and they flog most commodores lol sound good with exhaust system too best thing when ya get opens and over 25 u can supercharge them easily

truffles

That would be a stupid law threshold anyway. You do realise that the only cars that have that power to weight ratio are either very expensive, or supercars in their own right.


I don't think you realise the magnitude of 200kw/tonne.


The ferrari 360 has a kerb weight of 1450kgs and makes 300kw at the flywheel from factory. That's 206.8kw/tonne.


A 2009 Nissan GT-R has a kerb weight of 1748kg and makes 368kw at the flywheel. That's 210kw/tonne.


Do you see where I am going with this? The only cars a P plater couldn't drive under that law are ones 99% of people won't ever be able to afford anyway, let alone p-platers. Even if this was to cover modded p-plater cars, there is no way of testing this. They're not going to give you time on a road side dyno to prove it.


Edit: Yes the technical specs matter, but once again it's personal opinion. It depends what you personally want out of a car. How you want it to handle, shift, brake. It's not as simple as going "this car makes power and weighs fuck all, so it must be the BEST p-plate car"

iamhappy46

Which factory produced car makes 150Kw without being a V8/turbo/supercharged engine in an 800Kg car? There is no need for a 200Kw/tonne rule



On motorbikes, yes.

clutch-monkey

in victoria i thought it was the same for cars, i remember discussing with a P plater how a DC5 ITR slipped under the restrictions a few years back?

KammdUP

ok my mistake it must have been about the bikes, didnt want it to turn into a shit fight full of technical and legal jargon just wanted peoples opinions, so can we please stick to that

astorey

I think he mean't to say 100kw/tonne

KammdUP

yeh it was ment to be 100kw i didnt realise the mistake till just then

iamhappy46

That would rule out the EK VTiR Civic... they wont implement that rule ever. Too much variance for it to be inforced.

Hell, it would rule out most V6 Commodores and Falcoons

Zimma

Victoria has the same rules as queensland regarding p platers and restrictions minus the 13b rotary one i believe. There's a list of 6 cylinder cars that are banend which are like porsches, nsx, 350/370z but thats about it they ditched the power to weight restriction in favour of a blanket rule about 3 years ago, but even then the power to weight rule had a fair bit of room.

clutch-monkey

ah yep would have been that long ago. makes sense now

truffles

I think the power to weight ratio has merit..to a point. The lawmakers in QLD are slowly bending their heads around allowing more turbocharged cars on the list for p-platers. I (along with most people who own a brain) think this is a smart idea. Given the prices of fuel, car developers are going for a turbocharged engine to increase fuel econemy whilst retaining the power of a larger capacity engine. They are obviously not designed as high-performance cars. They incorporate all the modern technology and safety features and are more cost effective. An example of said car would have to be a Volkswagen Gofl GTI V. Yes it's 2L turbocharged engine makes 147kw and is therefore illegal under the current law. But it's bigger brother the Golf R32 makes 184kw with it's larger, naturally aspirated engine and yet is P-plate legal. However, if this law change were to happen, it would only allow for a strict and non-performance based number of cars. So no, your skyline/supra/wrx doesn't count.


Something isn't quite right.


Bit O/T from best p-plate cars. But it's always food for thought.