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Post #1 post 11th June 2010 - 06:06 PM
There are 3 different power plants: the 1800 GS (125 bhp), the 2 litre V6 GR/GX (170 bhp) and the top of the range 2.0 V6 24v MIVEC GPX/GPR (196 bhp) which has to be one of the best handling front wheel drive coupes available. The gpr is slightly faster is it doesnt have as much luxuries as the gpx, same engine but lightweight model. The gpr is the ultimate fto.

In terms of tweak potential the FTO is limited. In the same way as extracting more power from a Suzuki Swift GTi engine is difficult, the 6A12 is a real stubborn thing. The problem (if you can call it that) is that the factory has already done a fantastic job. With multi-point EFI, a 10.0:1 CR, MIVEC and 24 valve heads, there's not much more left for the aftermarket tuner to do. Of course, an intake and exhaust should release a little more power (maybe 5-10%) - but that's about it. Personally, I'd also be very inclined to fit a set of road-legal semi-race tyres to a beast like this.


"I'd always wondered why someone would pay 30k for a Mitsubishi FTO MIVEC V6 - especially when they can buy something like a twin turbo Zed for similar money. And those automatic FTOs? What a mishmash of pretences they must be - or, at least, that's what I'd figured... However, not long after picking up one of these Japanese-imported beasties, I had changed my opinion of them q-u-i-t-e a bit. Forget any ideas that this is merely a high-fashion boulevard cruiser - the Mitsubishi FTO MIVEC V6 is a 100% self-indulgent sportscar." said by jeremy clarkson


Whats your opinion??




This post has been edited by jezza888: Jun 11 2010, 06:32 PM
 
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jezza888
Post #2

Ive seen 264bhp ftos online as standard gprs too

vomit
Post #3

They are ugly as sin.
They Are FWD.
They Are Made by Mitsubishi.
I wouldn't buy one.

clutch-monkey
Post #4

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 06:06 PM) *
The gpr is slightly faster is it doesnt have as much luxuries as the gpx, same engine but lightweight model. The gpr is the ultimate fto. The gpr pushes 264hp at 197kw.

what?

45SET
Post #5

They WERE one of the best performing FWD cars... in 1996.

Since then there is plenty of FWD cars that would run rings around it.

A VTi-R DC2 or EK4 would be ones that would be in the same price range.

Otherwise look to Europe!

jezza888
Post #6

The gpr is a lightweight model fto 197kw look it up.

jezza888
Post #7

In my opinion one of the best front wheel drive cars ever made.

clutch-monkey
Post #8

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 06:19 PM) *
The gpr is a lightweight model fto 197kw look it up.

yeah it says 196hp, not kw though.

vomit
Post #9

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 06:20 PM) *
In my opinion one of the best front wheel drive cars ever made.


Yep cool. thumbsup.gif

45SET
Post #10

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Via PM)
I thought the VTi-R DC2 was ot in 95 aswell?? i didnt see it win car of the year in japan?? lol


Not one to really talk of PM... so thought I would put it back in here.

Integra might not have won car of the year...

But it appears the year after the FTO won (94-95) the Honda Civic actually won it (95-96). Car of the Year - Japan

Go drive a few more FWD cars before you start making outrageous claims that you think the FTO is the best FWD car available. Anything from Honda with a "Type R" Badge and anything out of Europe that is known as a "Hot Hatch" would out perform it (In every way).

jezza888
Post #11

Ive had a honda civic and i admit its a very reliable car at the bend but no where as near as powerful as the fto, power to weight ratio.

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Post #12

And he wants 14g for that horrid abbortion, lol.
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clutch-monkey
Post #13

QUOTE (45SET @ Jun 11 2010, 06:34 PM) *
Go drive a few more FWD cars before you start making outrageous claims that you think the FTO is the best FWD car available. Anything from Honda with a "Type R" Badge and anything out of Europe that is known as a "Hot Hatch" would out perform it (In every way).

without the stupid smiley face back end, to boot

jezza888
Post #14

14k or nearest offer, could be yours if yo play your cards right bowrofl.gif

45SET
Post #15

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 06:36 PM) *
Ive had a honda civic and i admit its a very reliable car at the bend but no where as near as powerful as the fto, power to weight ratio.


2L 24v V6

Compared to a 1.6L 16v I4 (I assume your Civic had a B16a in it, otherwise if it had some type of D-series, they aren't even comparable)

Two totally different engines.

The engine in the FTO is a good piece of kit, but it's not being used for the right application (FWD). A twin Turbo version is used in the VR4 Galant, and they are fantastic (As they are AWD)

45SET
Post #16

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 06:36 PM) *
Ive had a honda civic and i admit its a very reliable car at the bend but no where as near as powerful as the fto, power to weight ratio.


2L 24v V6

Compared to a 1.6L 16v I4 (I assume your Civic had a B16a in it, otherwise if it had some type of D-series, they aren't even comparable)

Two totally different engines.

The engine in the FTO is a good piece of kit, but it's not being used for the right application (FWD). A twin Turbo version is used in the VR4 Galant, and they are fantastic (As they are AWD)

SLYY-DOG
Post #17

This fto has beaten my ca18det turbo, i was right behind it but as soon as it swiched into second and past 7500rpm i couldnt catch it until went past 110mph. Hey jezza you wigger, my cars up for $5500 now man if u want it its yours.

jezza888
Post #18

im not into the awd, not dissing it but its just not my kinda ride, front wheel drive handles better than rear whel but cant drift obviously, my opinion fto turbo beats VR4 Galant every time.

clutch-monkey
Post #19

QUOTE (45SET @ Jun 11 2010, 06:43 PM) *
2L 24v V6

Compared to a 1.6L 16v I4 (I assume your Civic had a B16a in it, otherwise if it had some type of D-series, they aren't even comparable)

Two totally different engines.

The engine in the FTO is a good piece of kit, but it's not being used for the right application (FWD). A twin Turbo version is used in the VR4 Galant, and they are fantastic (As they are AWD)

not to mention the honda seems to have way more potential to unlock:
QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 06:06 PM) *
In terms of tweak potential the FTO is limited. In the same way as extracting more power from a Suzuki Swift GTi engine is difficult, the 6A12 is a real stubborn thing. The problem (if you can call it that) is that the factory has already done a fantastic job. With multi-point EFI, a 10.0:1 CR, MIVEC and 24 valve heads, there's not much more left for the aftermarket tuner to do.


aftermarket for these is a bitch.. i hear gearboxes are costly to replace?

jezza888
Post #20

yea your talkin about 2500 for a gearbox, but it hasnt missed a beat yet, only problem i had which was weird, right voltage was going into the altinator but it wasnt coming out after 6500rpm to the mivec engine. runnin sweet now though.

jezza888
Post #21

a turbo will sit straight ontop of it.

clutch-monkey
Post #22

how much is turbo conversion? can you just pull everything off a VR4?

iamhappy46
Post #23

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 06:19 PM) *
The gpr is a lightweight model fto 197kw look it up.


Hp not Kw.

and dont sprout any Gran Turismo special edition bullshit... it was a game.

jezza888
Post #24

Well it wont cost as much to put a supercharger or turbo on an fto as it would with a vr4, turbo conversion costs around $2000. mght need a gear change shift light though cause it goes fkn hard. gonna bring it down the 1/4 mile. i reckon its a 11 second car or just over

clutch-monkey
Post #25

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 07:16 PM) *
gonna bring it down the 1/4 mile. i reckon its a 11 second car or just over

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InVtecWeTrust
Post #26

i think he's got rocks in his head dunno.gif

45SET
Post #27

8URVTEC
Post #28

the more i look at it.
the more i like it

meh id never buy one though

mark1414
Post #29

Yeah I chopped an FTO in my 20v corolla quite easily, not sure what model but it wasn't that great.

Ryan_Chandler
Post #30

https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=590553&hl=

started this yesterday after test driving a GPX

most epic P plater car

Twist
Post #31

Buy it so I can drive over it and do the world a favour.

8URVTEC
Post #32

QUOTE (Ryan_Chandler @ Jun 11 2010, 08:42 PM) *
most epic P plater car


dont think so mate

vomit
Post #33

QUOTE (jezza888 @ Jun 11 2010, 07:16 PM) *
Well it wont cost as much to put a supercharger or turbo on an fto as it would with a vr4, turbo conversion costs around $2000. mght need a gear change shift light though cause it goes fkn hard. gonna bring it down the 1/4 mile. i reckon its a 11 second car or just over


Get The Fuck Out. 11 Seconds?

clutch-monkey
Post #34

QUOTE (Ryan_Chandler @ Jun 11 2010, 07:42 PM) *
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=590553&hl=

started this yesterday after test driving a GPX

most epic P plater car

not even close

Ryan_Chandler
Post #35

QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Jun 11 2010, 08:01 PM) *
not even close

so what u think is the num 1 P plate car then

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